Originally posted by bigshow
reply to post by Stylez
Boy you are sure a piece of work. We'll just go with the last post on here. From the Declaration of Independence. When the government becomes
destructive to the people, they people have a right to remove it. And I think it's rather pathetic you have come down to name calling to try and get
your point across. In any case you still won't receive any apology and I am laughing at you for getting so bent out of shape and being an internet
tough guy its quite pathetic.
Well I am not here to argue with you show, I am here to debate SG's defending the obamacare obamesshia solution to the illusory financial crisis
which Ill touch on a little then get back to you.
As for Obama, Hawaii tried something similar to his Children's Health program. It lasted about 6 months. The humor in the program was that parents
dropped their children from their employer's group health insurance program to save a few dollars and signed up the kids for the FREE government
health insurance program. Guess what?? The program went broke in a matter of months
The financial crisis is what we see below:
Banking 2009 update
Bank failures: 92
Total Deposits: $7,566 billion
Failed Deposits: $85.0 billion
Failed Assets: $102.3 billion
Estimated Losses: $24.4 billion
Actual Losses est: $47.2 billion
Failed Deposits/Total Deposits: 1.11 percent
Estimated Losses/Failed Deposits: 28.7 percent
Actual Losses/Failed Assets: 46.6 percent
Total loans & leases: -4.6 percent
DIF balance Q2 reported: $10.4 billion
DIF balance FDIC est: -2.7 billion
DIF balance actual est: -11.8 billion
FD/TD 1930: 1.65 percent
FD/TD 1931: 0.34 percent
FD/TD 1932: 1.99 percent
FD/TD 1933: 8.55 percent
AL/FD 1930-1933: 28.88 percent
FD/TD 2008: 3.21 percent
AL/FD 2008: 14.99 percent
I can't argue with anyone that mis-interprets the laws, the constitution, the bill of rights etc. Southern Guardian asks for someone to give Dr. Ron
Paul’s solution to the financial crisis. I think it is rather silly to ask such a thing of a man who is by definition a "constitutionalist" having
written more books on the subject than all the books Bill Ayers could ever Ghost write for Barack insane Obama.
When I gave Ron Paul’s solution to the problem, is when I realized Southern Guardian didn't have the capacity to understand the solution as soon as
he resisted the very first step of a Ron Paul fix for the economy arguing instead to be further duped by the false belief that the fed MUST be the
answer or that we MUST do something RIGHT NOW infusing trillions of dollars into the biggest ponzi scam ever created. Don't let the media fool
anyone, Bernie Madoff is a small time hoodlum compared to what Obama and his bank cronies have accomplished with fed. I think it goes without saying
that if you don't get rid of the fed first, the efforts anyone makes WITH the fed is about as useless as putting out a wild fire using a bucket of
gasoline. Obama has not only done that, but did it by the truck load.
The reason I can't give Southern Guardian an answer after he rejected the first part of a Ron Paul solution is summed up best in this summary for the
book Titled "End The Fed" by Dr. Ron Paul.
In the post-meltdown world, it is irresponsible, ineffective, and ultimately useless to have a serious economic debate without considering and
challenging the role of the Federal Reserve.
Most people think of the Fed as an indispensable institution without which the country's economy could not properly function. But in "END THE
FED”, Ron Paul draws on American history, economics, and fascinating stories from his own long political life to argue that the Fed is both corrupt
and unconstitutional. It is inflating currency today at nearly a Weimar or Zimbabwe level, a practice that threatens to put us into an inflationary
depression where $100 bills are worthless. What most people don't realize is that the Fed -- created by the Morgan’s and Rockefellers at a private
club off the coast of Georgia -- is actually working against their own personal interests. Congressman Paul's urgent appeal to all citizens and
officials tells us where we went wrong and what we need to do fix America's economic policy for future generations.
If Southern Guardian is not willing to read the many best selling books by this wise gentle man, while he continues to badger, berate, belittle his
interlocutors by miss-representing the context of their arguments using bits and pieces of posts strung together in comments he has created his own
comebacks for he thinks make him look really "cool n stuff" but they are not arguments with me or anyone else he responds to but of himself because
No one can recognize the posts of ours he is responding to because they are of comments in contexts of things we have never said. Between the last
two President's Bush and now Obama, I believe this country is now under control of something that has no name you can label it under.
It is an ideology which has stayed comfortably under the radar under the auspices of militant atheism, social Darwinists, many gay rights
organizations, the ACLU, some call them the left but the left I remember was the left of dead center and the right I remember was right of dead
center. Those opposing opinions of mine see us as the extreme right, fascist's big corporation, right wing religious, creationist 911truthers etc.
We argue in areas of science, while REAL scientist's shake their heads and wonder. We argue in areas of engineering while real engineers shake their
heads and wonder, we argue in areas of religion where God doesn't wonder, he just shakes his head.
In the meantime our children are growing up with fewer freedoms than I had and a lot less than my father had and even more than my fathers, father had
but more than his father had.
The pendulum swings both ways they say and like the Big Wheel on the Price is right or wheel of fortune, the further away the sweet spot on the wheel,
the harder you got to push. Did anyone expect any less of an extreme push to the left when bush was such a throw to the right? We here it is this
guy, that guy your guy my guy but the guys are all same and while the game has changed to one of whiplash right wing turns to lofty long leaning lanes
on the left at dizzying speeds vomiting from vertigo, we begin to acknowledge, America is sick.
She is sick of being called racist when she is so well known for her fight for civil rights while at the same time the many that died fighting for
those rights were those that didn't have a reason to but died nevertheless for those that did and while republicans get called right winged racists,
it was the party of Lincoln that set the most oppressed free from slavery. It was the religion of Christianity that brought us the science that now
discriminates religion saying don't preach in our schools and we won't think inside your church's which is fine with most of us but the problem is,
they don't think outside the church anymore either.
She is sick from seeing her children being taken to the slaughter like cattle with about as much ambivalence and as much apathy as one has flushing a
goldfish down the toilet.
Ironically we do this to her behind the slippery semantics of slick talking organizations that defy the name they are under like “Planned
Parenthood” and we not only think it’s our choice to make but our right to have that choice and nine times out of ten, America chooses to comit
suicide via infanticide one American infant at a time.
Oh yeah, I have seen all the excuses for it and the reasons why, but when you peel the onion most of them are just that, excuses and there is no
reason behind the reason why.
She is sick of working tirelessly to raise her family while friends of the family have become allies of couples of terminally childless couples
wanting the perks of a Government entitled and mandated acceptance of their lifestyles while they contribute nothing to it in children that later
become tax payers and defenders of our Country in the military. She is sick of being called a bigot whenever she points this out, by those same
individuals who believe they have the same rights as those in relationships whose sacrifice for raising Americas young, Americas future, those civil
contracts were designed to promote.
She is sick of being fed fast food diets created by science which has included chemical additives which make her obese while and addicted to them
while they scream for health care they can not afford we are dying from the very foods that are supposed to sustain us.
I see you have decided to honor me bigshow as someone chosen for your respected foes list and I wonder what it is I had done to deserve such
After all, you and I are on the same team and although you say you have nothing to apologize for after threatening to hit me over the head with a
book, called me a tough guy, and accused me of calling you names, I on the other hand, am not too big a show to apologize to you if I called you any
names whether I remember doing that or not, if I did, I am sorry.
You and I have a different idea of the legal terms between expulsion and recall, but our desire to use them and remove every single solitary soul in
the house and senate is the same. I think that can be done come Judgment Day. No I am not talking about when we all die, but election day, when,
hopefully Americans finally get it, that if they ever want to know if their really IS an NWO or if they really want to know if term limits are a good
thing, or if their really IS a two party system etc,. We need to vote ALL of them OUT, your guy, my guy, I have to vote the incumbent I like OUT as
long as you vote your states incumbent OUT too. If we all did that, then change, REAL change isn't only possible, IT IS INEVITABLE! If we all did
that, and the next day, the same old bastards are still there, THEN and only then, will we know, if their really is an NWO and that we have a problem
but that day would also be, the beginning of their worst nightmare.
I never saw myself as an internet tough guy but I seem to give that impression I am told. Never quite figured that one out, as long as I am not to
tough to admit I am wrong or apologize for things I have said and done, I think being tough is a title better left for the likes of Randy Paush,
Patrick Swayze, and lets not forget those crazy cage fighters like the ice man liddel. Me, I'm just a retired military veteran with some
experience in Government and research who has an interest in bodybuilding but it isn't to be tough or even to be healthy or in shape, lol, I work
out for vanity's sake lol.
in spite of how things might appear I never once got "bent out of shape" and the only thing I see have been done that I could consider pathetic in
this thread, is the tactics used by its op to put his countrymen down for defending the constitutional right they have to defend their unalienable
rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, while SG defends the man who is actively taking them away from us.
[edit on 16-9-2009 by Stylez]