Originally posted by Southern Guardian
So none of these individuals care about the constitution including you? Please explain.
When you refer to “these individuals”, are you referring to people on this board or TPTB?
My OP was clear. If conservatives, libertarians and what not were given the chance to over throw this man hypothetically, they would do this
against the guidelines of the constitution.
My OP was clear. It does not matter if their attempts are against the guidelines of the constitution, because the people in power don’t give a damn
about the constitution, nor are we playing by the rules outlined in the constitution.
Thats my point, you are no supporter of the constitution if you do so selfishly for your own ideological beliefs.
I understand your point, but the people in power are not supporters of the constitution. In addition, I’ll even go as far as to say many
constitutionalists aren’t in support of the constitution but seek to spread their own agenda.
Since you confirmed that this is where you stand then atleast I know the priority of where the constitution really sits for some people.
To me, the constitution is a piece of paper that happens to be a work in progress (WIP). Even though it is a WIP, it means nothing to me, as I do not
hold the belief that a piece of paper gives me rights, nor am I of the belief that a piece of paper protects me.
I dont care if you think the man didnt wear an american flag pin, dont care if his policies make you "angry", he was elected president
constitutionally and democratically. If you call for the mans impeachment put the constitution and those "rights" where your mouth is. Pure and
All of that is great but not applicable to me as I’m not one of the sheeple that believes in something as absurd as the power of the vote (I’m
talking in regards to the office of presidency.) I know the man was selected, not elected, by the global elite, so all the talk about the
constitution, impeachment, etc is a waste of everyone’s time.
Originally posted by Jenna
And what of the ones who are trying to take a stand? The ones who are labeled and looked down upon for speaking out? The ones who've finally said
enough is enough, we won't put up with this same song and dance anymore? They know that the faces are the only thing that changes. They know that
it's just more of the same. Yet they are the ones being dumped on because they dare to speak out. Seems like a load full of hypocrisy laden horse
crap to me.
Jenna, there is a difference between saying those things and actually doing it. In our society, more specifically in this country, the people are too
comfortable and only tend to speak out when their comfort zones are challenged or threatened. We had two critical periods within the last fifty years
where we could have turned things around for the better and we dropped the ball. Now all we can do is talk about change, but what change can we
possibly make if we’re falling for the same madness every four years?
And who exactly is it that's dividing us? The media. That's who.
The media is a tool used to divide the people. Other things used to divide are race, economic class, educational background, political party,
religion, lifestyle choices, etc. Yes, media is a very powerful tool, but who is pulling the media strings?
But some are so convinced that their choice of media wouldn't lie to them that they can't see the forest for the trees. If their media choice
doesn't say that those who are speaking out are right they won't believe it no matter what anyone says. You can't make people listen, no matter how
hard you try.
Again, this goes back to comfort zone and having blinders on. Certain groups of people are up in arms and worried about all of this, but this is
simply the tip of the iceberg. This country had the chance to rectify the problems, it really did, but the people chose to remain oblivious to it all.
In fact, the people are so far-gone we can call them zombies.
Originally posted by Balone
reply to post by EMPIRE
Voting 3rd party sends a message.
I rather have this flake then continue to be a slave to the elite.
And they aren't all flakes I voted for the guy Ron Paul backed, that was good enough for me.
What type of message does voting 3rd party send? You don’t think the elite have enough power to manipulate 3rd party candidates? This system is
controlled by the elite, and until the system is damaged beyond repair, and a new system implemented, subjugation of the public will continue as it
always has. You can vote for anyone all you like. Vote for Jesus, Santa, EMPIRE, Ron Paul, George Bush, Barry O, Abe Lincoln, Jim Jones, Super Mario,
Prince, the owners of ATS, Hulk Hogan, Barbara Boxer, Richard Steele, John McCain, or the Zodiac Killer. The ONLY thing that matters is who THEY say
is going to fill the office.