Originally posted by Southern Guardian
15 minutes? How about months? And by the way, isnt this why we had town halls? Oh wait, instead of asking the president or raising your concerns, we
hear "socialism" all day long. Whether you think this bill came from stalin himself, .
Yeah SG 15 mins they have several threads about it, I am sure you have seen them, how Obama was always complaining about bush shocing bills through
faster than anyone had time to read them. Then he does it even more .
the mere fact your going on about the length of the bill while refusing to have a look into it at all in anycase says alot
Well I don't know SG, what DOES it say a lot about me?
I know what it says about you being so presumptuous to make such comments without even bothering to ask me if I had read it or not.
This isnt about the length of the bill really, this is about throwing anything at the bill itself. I'd swear if this was shorter you'd be
telling me how "it was not planned properly given how short the bill was".
I noticed that too about you , if you can't second guess what your opposing interlocutors are about, how they think and can't add a label to them as
fingers, birthers, right wing nutjobs etc, I don't know what you'd do to give yourself the illusion you actually think you're right all the time.
How does this solve the financial crises? People are loosing jobs, companies are collapsing, the dollar is loosing value, and you are tell me here
that by Ron Paul changing the tax system and leaving hell to take over everything will be dandy? Ofcourse he would have ended the Fed. that doesnt
solve the financial crises at present neither does it change anything.
How the hell do YOU know ? Anyone ever do it? NOPE! just SG making up the facts as he goes.
This is seriously a joke. You folks really think eliminating one government division, the Fed, is going to take away all your woes
No it isn't it is pathetic is what it is.
If you think putting words in peoples mouth, then answering them as if they actually said eliminating one government division would take away all our
problems, with your usual presumptuous criticism, if you think that is a joke, I don't. I just think it's rude a very inexperienced debate tactic
used by many here I have noticed but not as much as I see you do it to people.
What his going to end taxes and just hide it in goods and services? Really Im going to have some good long drives across the Canadian border
to get that plasma TV of mine, me and millions of americans just to avoid the tax increase on goods and services. Real stimulus to american
This isnt a solution, this plan of Ron Pauls. This is just getting rid of agency because people dont like paying taxes. It doesnt solve the nations
issues at hand.
hehhe you go on SG have this conversation with yourself, I am obviously not given any serious attention for what I really say so neither will you
Way to kill a thread .
And what proof do you have here? You folks accuse other people of "just talking" what is Ron Paul doing exactly? Isnt this based on your
assumption? Whats he going to get to the bottom of? Isnt he at the top?.
what proof do I have? Umm gee SG wasn't Barack Obama SECOND in line at the fannie mae freddie mac trough for campaign funds? Wasn't Obama saying NO
to Mcains Bill in 2005 to put more controls on the GSE's because he was afraid this would happen? Didn't he say that? Didn't Obama use his lawyers
offices and powers to sue banks forcing them to make consessions to people for mortgages they really couldn't afford while he was a community
agitator, in Chicago? I seem to remember the News on WGN channel 9 saying that? Am I wrong SG?
Ron Paul talks and "predicts" alot of things. Im suppose to be convinced by this man and nobody else and I should be taking your word for it?
No you aren't "supposed to do anything SG, but you asked me so I'm giving my reasons he obviously knew more to say the kind of things we were doing
would end up just like he said so I would suggest yo utake HIS workd for it not mine. It's become quite obvious you have no intention of either
listening to me or Ron Paul and you King Barack Obama is your idol who can do no wrong and anyone who says otherwise get told what they really said
according to you then ripped up and down for saying the many things they never quite said them by the person who never quite read them.
Sounds to me like your not explaining the solutions this man has to offer to the crises at hand, something you readily accuse this current
president of. It also sounds to me like your marketing this man based on his word, something you folks accuse other voters of.
The solution your man has to offer happens to be the one where WE take all the risk and all the losses and seeing how your man claimed Bush was such a
maniac witrh spending during the canpaign, then gets in there only to make Bush look like he is so tight with spending he squeeks when he walks, seems
to evade your perception. I have been on this planet longer than you SG and have seen our government throw money at things claiming they were going
to make sure it was the right way this time.
They ALL say, they are the solution. To my knowledge I have never seen low income people come out of poverty because o a democrat being in office
saying he was going to make it fair for everyone.
As usual you folks have only proven what I stated. Ron Paul's solution is to be a do-nothing president who's only goal is to "end the FED"
to supposedly sort out our debt issues... oh wait no he doesnt want the people paying the nations debt off so ofcourse we should walk away from it, as
if other nations are doing the same to ours, as if China and Japans going to keep shut? His solution to ending the FED is supposedly the solution to
the immediate financial crises? Hows he going to create jobs by ending the Fed within a matter of months?
Can I ask why you do that? You ask for speculation and you get it but when you do you criticize it as fact and as failed policy when most of what you
are saying I said i never said and the failure of any of what I said he would do isn't what he would but what I think would be some of it going by
what he has already done like legislation to audit the fed and finding out once and for all how much of our economy is even real.
This man doesnt have any plans. All he intends to do is remove some elected politicians, end the Federal reserve and all income taxes, and from
there the nation will be like brand spanking new. Ron Pauls solution is applying 18th century government plans to 21st century issues.
Some problem solver.
Well Gee sg, if you KNEW what he is going to do, then why are you asking us? I didn't know Ron Paul ever really got a crack at it to tel you the
truth but seeing how he has already failed using them 18th century methods in a 21st century crisis as if you know that is how it would end up, hey
DON'T let me get in that one with ya
I hate arguing with mind readers who can see the future and who know ron paul better than Ron Paul knows himself.
What a waste of time this was lol.
[edit on 15-9-2009 by Stylez]