I find it rather bothersom of the willful neglect of the constitution when it doesnt suit the arguments of some folks. Lets not the forget the constitution was not written "by conservatives" for "conservatives". It was not written "patriots" for "patriots". The constitution was written by the people for the people. The constitution represents all americans, in all ethnicities, religions and ideologies. There is gross ignorance of the constitutional rights that apply to all americans among many on here. I tell ya, its rather interesting seeing a thread regarding how Obama should be impeached because of this unauthenticated document or that he should be removed because of this policie or that the "american people want him to leave" even though that really translates to "southern conservatives and disgruntled libertarians want him to".

Is this what you consider patriotic? Is what you consider following the will of the founding fathers? Overthrowing a fairly elected president candidate on the basis of your own personal suspcions, theories, hatred? Where did this mentality come from? Does the consensus among those in this forum, among the conservative populous dictate the entire path of the nation? I mean we certainly had conservative southerners in office for the past 28years so maybe folks forget as to whom and what these constitutional rights apply to. Maybe folks should start reminding themselves that those constitutional rights are not exclusive to "certain kinds of americans".

You may not like Obama for all sorts of reasons but he was democratically elected as president on November 4th 2008. He was constitutionally confirmed eligible in December of 2008 by both congress and the electoral college. Whether you choose to accept it or not he did sufficiently provide evidence of his birth right for the presidency. This isnt about you, this isnt about your personal issues about the man, this is about the will of the constitution, the will of those men who stood around that table in 1775 to form this great Union of ours, the will of the people who voted one November 4th 2008. Maybe the founding fathers didnt anticipate future presidents and who they are, what they will be like, but they certainly drafted the rights to be applied to all americans, of all colours, all creeds and yes even ideological beliefs. Obama was constitutionally elected as president, and while the people of this nation have every right to remove a president on the basis of abuse of power, that requires for a constitutional reference for any such removal to take place and recognition of the constitutional rights of that president and those who disagree. Something people here willfully forget and shut out.

In addition to this, the mere fact you all kept your mouths shut over the last 8years only the speak up now clearly shows that this has nothing to do with the constitution and everything to do with cultural shock and fear and to be frank, that isnt sufficient enough to remove him from office.

So, the next time anybody here goes on about how the president should be impeached, hanged, or whatever twisted reasoning you folks have, remember that you dont speak for all who contribute to this country, you dont speak for the constitution, you dont dictate the path of this nation exclusively and you dont draft the eligibility laws exclusively. This is a Union, shared by many peoples of many beliefs and many ideologies. Despite our differences we all share rights from the constitution and we all contribute to moving the nation on path. So, please cut the "patriotic water the liberty" garbage, because you dont own that right exclusively. You may not like where this nation is heading to, but thank the founding fathers you dont constitutionally speak for the rest of the nation exclusively.

So the next time you post a thread or reply stating about how Obama and the government should be overthrown, but the constitution where your mouth is, not where your personal suspicions and hatred lie.

Originally posted by Southern Guardian

In addition to this, the mere fact you all kept your mouths shut over the last 8years only the speak up now clearly shows that this has nothing to do with the constitution and everything to do with cultural shock and fear and to be frank, that isnt sufficient enough to remove him from office.

Most of the people who dislike Obama and his policies on this site are the same ones who disliked Bush and his policies. Don't let that tiny little fact stand in the way though.

Originally posted by Jenna

Originally posted by Southern Guardian

In addition to this, the mere fact you all kept your mouths shut over the last 8years only the speak up now clearly shows that this has nothing to do with the constitution and everything to do with cultural shock and fear and to be frank, that isnt sufficient enough to remove him from office.

Most of the people who dislike Obama and his policies on this site are the same ones who disliked Bush and his policies. Don't let that tiny little fact stand in the way though.

And this proves........what again?
That they are habitualy negative, never happy. Always paranoid?
Just trying to help.
You know what? Overthrowing The President ( any President) by violence is a very dangerous game. If you try, be aware that the rest of reserve our right to put you in the Federal Pen, or into the ground. Just so the rules are clear.

Originally posted by OldDragger

And this proves........what again?
That they are habitualy negative, never happy. Always paranoid?
Just trying to help.
You know what? Overthrowing The President ( any President) by violence is a very dangerous game. If you try, be aware that the rest of reserve our right to put you in the Federal Pen, or into the ground. Just so the rules are clear.

I wouldn't think this would have to be spelled out, but apparently it does. What it proves is that this isn't just about Obama, it isn't just a bunch of disgruntled Republicans, and it's not just people whining because their man lost. What it proves is that people have been sick and tired of what's going on in Washington for a very long time, they're ready for a change, and everything coming from Obama is more of the same. What it proves is that all the finger-pointing by some people trying to say it's just racist rednecks that hate Obama is nothing but a bunch of hot-air.

You know what? I didn't mention violence, or overthrowing Obama with it. How's about not talking about putting me in the ground for something I didn't mention?

[edit on 11-9-2009 by Jenna]

Get used to it. You live in a country where freedom of speech is protected. Yet you complain about it. Then you cite the constitution as some sort of proof, we the people shouldn't complain about the resident in the white house.

The resident at the white house is nothing but a mere man just like the rest of them that sat where he now does. This white house resident is no god or messiah, there is nothing special about him which would exempt him from criticism. You find it offensive for Americans to criticise that which you idolize? to bad, so sad. This is not a McDonald's hamburger joint and your not going to have it your way. This is America!

If there ever should come a day where it be illegal for me to criticise this man, then I will know for sure this is no longer America. Though that might be perfectly OK with you, It's not OK with me. Got it?