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Originally posted by stevegmu
Originally posted by Mak Manto
Can you say nutcase?
When Obama explicitly states that illegal immigrants will not be covered by insurance, there is no, "you lie."
They will not be covered for insurance.
Can you point me to the section in HR3200 specifically prohibiting illegals from being covered?
Originally posted by xmaddness
reply to post by crimvelvet
He was clarifying what he wants to see -IN- a bill. He also went on to say he has already received four PROPOSED bills. A proposed bill is not a final bill by any means.
[edit on 9-9-2009 by xmaddness]
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by mental modulator
I believe that the approval numbers for congress and Obama speak for themselves.
We are not talking about ufo's or . . . mental modulators.
we are talking about a hot button issue.
[edit on 9/9/2009 by Lemon.Fresh]
Originally posted by Iago18
Here's a link to the video:
"You Lie"
Bravo Mr. Wilson. Bravo.
Note the anger in Obama and Pelosi. Really, Obama recovers quickly, but Pelosi looked like she wanted to jump down and eviscerate Mr. Wilson.
does the federal goverment have the constitutional authority to create a national healthcare plan ?
the answer is no
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by admriker444
does the federal goverment have the constitutional authority to create a national healthcare plan ?
the answer is no
Actually, that is your interpretation and not that I don't agree with it. But if a healthcare bill passes, it is legally a law until the Supreme court declares it unconstitutional.
Now, what are the odds of the Supreme Court taking up this issue?
There are several states now with legislation pending or already passed that states the 10th amendment gives the states power over all things not specifically granted to the federal goverment.
Originally posted by Mak Manto
Originally posted by stevegmu
Originally posted by Mak Manto
Can you say nutcase?
When Obama explicitly states that illegal immigrants will not be covered by insurance, there is no, "you lie."
They will not be covered for insurance.
Can you point me to the section in HR3200 specifically prohibiting illegals from being covered?
Can you point me that says it won't?
Though, here is the thing, Steve.
If you are here illegally, that is, if you are not able to present evidence that you came into this country through legal means, you will not be given insurance.
This is already how it is with illegal immigrants and health care. Current law states that illegal immigrants are not able to get it.
It'll be the same for the new bill.
Though, and President Obama has said this, I wouldn't have a problem with an exception to children of illegal immigrants.
SEC. 202. EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS.
(a) Access to Coverage- In accordance with this section, all individuals are eligible to obtain coverage through enrollment in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan offered through the Health Insurance Exchange unless such individuals are enrolled in another qualified health benefits plan or other acceptable coverage.