Senator Ted Kennedy has died of Brain cancer at age 77, page 3
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reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 01:41 AM by jd140
reply to post by RoofMonkey


If you read my post I directed to you then you would have seen where I said you are right.

Why are you still replying to me?

Please don't take this as an invite to reply to me, it was a rhetorical question.

edit to add-

As I stated earlier. Regardless if you don't like his politics. He was a person who thought he was doing what he thought was the right thing. Many people agreed with him as he was re elected several times. Be the bigger person and send your condolences to his family.

[edit on 26-8-2009 by jd140]


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 01:46 AM by RoofMonkey
reply to post by jd140


rhetoric

b. Language that is elaborate, pretentious, insincere

This the definition you're using?


Edit Add: To be honest, I find it reprehensible to cheer the death of an individual. I have actively sat and pondered things like this... explored the moral character of what level of spite it would take to have this strong of an opinion about someone.

I think I have found it.

I regret his familial loss, but as a person.... nah, can't do it. My comments stand.




[edit on 26-8-2009 by RoofMonkey]


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 01:52 AM by jd140
reply to post by RoofMonkey


Main Entry: rhe·tor·i·cal
Pronunciation: \ri-ˈtȯr-i-kəl, -ˈtär-\
Variant(s): also rhe·tor·ic \ri-ˈtȯr-ik, -ˈtär-\
Function: adjective
Date: 15th century
1 a : of, relating to, or concerned with rhetoric b : employed for rhetorical effect; especially : asked merely for effect with no answer expected rhetorical question>
2 a : given to rhetoric : grandiloquent b : verbal

en.wikipedia.org...

Now you get the privelage of being on my ignore list.


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 02:15 AM by RoofMonkey
COBRA...
...among other things, mandates an insurance program giving some employees the ability to continue health insurance coverage after leaving employment.


Now...square that with this:


•HR 3200 IH

SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE DEFINED.

—Subject to the succeeding provisions of this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable coverage under this division, the term ‘‘grandfathered health insurance coverage’’ means individual health insurance coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

(1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.—

(A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1.

(B) DEPENDENT COVERAGE PERMITTED.—Subparagraph (A) shall not affect the subsequent enrollment of a dependent of an individual who is covered as of such first day.

(2) LIMITATION ON CHANGES IN TERMS OR CONDITIONS.—Subject to paragraph (3) and except 23 as required by law, the issuer does not change any of its terms or conditions, including benefits and cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day before the first day of Y1.

(3) RESTRICTIONS ON PREMIUM INCREASES.—The issuer cannot vary the percentage increase in the premium for a risk group of enrollees in specific grandfathered health insurance coverage without changing the premium for all enrollees in the same risk group at the same rate, as specified by the Commissioner.



HR: 3200

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reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 02:49 AM by BLV12
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by Decoy



There are millions of people that die everyday. Kennedy's death should be a reminder to all of us. I won't be shedding any tears over the guy.


Nobody is asking you or anyone else to shed a tear over his passing.
But the least you could is act like a civilised human being and show some respect for the dead for God's sake.

You whine that he has done nothing, while I do not know much about the man, I'm positive without checking the facts, that he has done more for America and the American people then you ever will.
The question you should ask your self is not what he did, but what YOU have done or WILL do for your country and people...besides sit on ATS and bitch.

[edit on 26-8-2009 by BLV12]


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 03:08 AM by DrMattMaddix
Originally posted by Sestias
The news is not unexpected but still very saddening.
...
Even those who disagreed with him will probably be among the mourners.
...

... as he had worked so hard on his (Barack Obama's) behalf.


Obama is Kennedy's ideological twin.

I haven't and won't shed a tear over his passing. I won't ever desecrate his resting area either.

It's always been my wife's contention and maybe someone can confirm: that the Kennedy's have lived so lavishly, in part, because they've received money from every imported drop of rum into the USA since prohibition in the 20's.

I don't know or care if it's true, maybe someone can confirm as it's mildly interesting.

Ever since the artificially hyped Kennedy Dinasty, which in my opinion was due only to JFK's greatness, seeing the 'royalty' almost weekly in the 60's in print and on TV it became a distasteful, farcical distraction.

Implying that we here in the US had 'royalty' equal to that of Britain's. Such deceit. Rich Mofo's aren't 'royalty' just because they want to believe that they are.

Royalty exists in these United States ONLY because we men in America treat our women AS SUCH. And the women likewise to men. Great respect and great teasing and wonderful humor. (and Deep Love... Royal Love that riches can never experience.)

No, Kennedy and his Patriach, or whatever you loons want to call it, he will be missed only by the wanna be's.

How many brave Americans died in Afghanistan today? By Obamacare standards who's worth more? He was 77. The kid soldiers that died today, how old were they ... and their wives ... and their children?

Perhaps Kennedy's (and other's) priorities were/are misplaced...


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reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 03:47 AM by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by BLV12



I never killed anyone in my life you schlub. That right there makes me a better man than Kennedy.


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 04:34 AM by Oatmeal
reply to post by Zosynspiracy




Yeah so did Bernie Madoff!


He didn't invest as wisely...



reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 04:51 AM by Oatmeal
reply to post by DrMattMaddix




It's always been my wife's contention and maybe someone can confirm: that the Kennedy's have lived so lavishly, in part, because they've received money from every imported drop of rum into the USA since prohibition in the 20's.


The Kennedy's originally made their money from smuggling liquor during prohibition to the U.S. from Canada.



Joseph Kennedy, son of Irish Catholic immigrants and patriarch of the infamous Kennedy family was a client of Rocco Perri’s. Joseph Kennedy, who was most recognizable as the father of former U.S. President John F. Kennedy, became affectionately known as a “Baptist Bootlegger”.


Source



As the profits from rum-running grew, it attracted many legitimate businessmen, including Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr., father of the future President, who purportedly financed rum-running operations from Canada and represented several British alcohol distillers. Large profits also attract less legitimate businessmen, and it was not long before the Mob got involved.


Source



"With a certain degree of control at that point and insider information during the prohibition period, he positioned himself as the sole import agent of several brands of alcohol, purchasing millions of dollars worth of stock. The day prohibition ended in 1933 his company re-sold the stock legally making tens of millions of dollars of profit. "While subversively controlling the distribution of illegal alcohol during prohibition, Kennedy disguised his activities as the legitimate owner of an investment firm, trading in the largely unregulated stock market. "In what would be considered highly illegal by today’s governance of the stock exchange, Joseph Kennedy manipulated the stock values of companies in cooperation with a pool of investors up or down depending on the position of the pool at the time. "In 1928 Kennedy pulled hundreds of millions of dollars out of the markets just prior to the market crash of 1929 and then subsequently made a secondary fortune on his short positions.


Source

What struck me about Ted Kennedy was the fact that he was a politician, who didn't need to take other peoples money. I did not agree with most of his politics, but still had respect for the man, RIP Senator Edward Kennedy.



[edit on 26-8-2009 by Oatmeal]


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 04:55 AM by BLV12
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by BLV12



I never killed anyone in my life you schlub. That right there makes me a better man than Kennedy.


Yeah because I'm sure he drove his car off a bridge on purpose for #s and giggles you know.

I'm sure you were there like the other guy who claims he had a "smile" on his face.

Well done btw, didn't take you long to resort to crappy insults.


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 04:58 AM by questioningall
reply to post by jsobecky


RIP

Hopefully, his dream of health care for all people, as a right will become a reality.


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 05:06 AM by Oatmeal
reply to post by RoofMonkey




No R.I.P. for him... maybe a B.I.H.


Yes, try to have a little class...
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