Why does it look liek ther eis a bunch of explosion on the ground in the upper left region?

I would say Springer is right on the money on this one, if you speed up the video you'll notice the particles form a distinct "orbital" type nature that shows they are coming from behind the camera and following a path away from the camera, rather than launching from earth and upwards, as it seems at the normal speed of the video.

EDIT: @ paranoiaFTW - it's a lightning storm i think

[edit on 26-8-2009 by fetidchimp]

Originally posted by derpif
Don`t worry, it`s only lightning.

Speculation is fun, but without knowledge of the sunlight illumination conditions, it's pretty pointless.

And Martyn won't let you find out the actual illumination conditions.

Any speculation why NOT??

Originally posted by fetidchimp
I would say Springer is right on the money on this one, if you speed up the video you'll notice the particles form a distinct "orbital" type nature that shows they are coming from behind the camera and following a path away from the camera, rather than launching from earth and upwards, as it seems at the normal speed of the video.

EDIT: @ paranoiaFTW - it's a lightning storm i think

[edit on 26-8-2009 by fetidchimp]

This was what I sorted through 4 pages to see if someone beat me to the punch. My thoughts exactly upon first view. The orbital path of these objects is obvious to me, as they cross into sunlight, they become visible, and clearly head away from the camera, not straight out across the field of view out into space.

The reversed meteor shower theory was tempting, but if that were the case, they would be obviously visible as they heated up / flamed into the atmosphere in the darkness beyond the sunlit surface - they wouldn't disappear into it.

CDS

Greetings .

At 21 seconds into the video you can really see how these UFOs or Unknown Objects are clearly moving away from the Earth in the same path with each other and into outer space not staying near Earth at all.

Some other objects or Lights etc are just staying in postion.

Will just have to agree to disagree on what our eyes are seeing here.

Blessings and Peace,
CmdrAleon

Yeah it looked like they were popping up out of the oceans, the outside looked like some electrical storms to me, surging back and forth.

But that is (true) not all electrical storms are caused by weather, sometimes e.ts. brimstone right over our heads in another layer of the quantum belt.

Originally posted by Cmdraleon
Will just have to agree to disagree on what our eyes are seeing here.

If you see with your eyes, you're the only critter on Earth. The rest of us see with our brains based on eye input compared with memory of previous perceptions, and this 'seeing' depends on a lifetime's training in ordinary earthside views.

When you look at space views and try to interpret them in earth terms, it's a recipe for misinterpretation and self-deception, and there's no better example of this than the 'space shuttle UFO videos".

Until you at least admit to yourself that your lifetime's observational training could mislead you, you're hopelessly self-misled.

And you're then a perfect 'UFO buff'.

Originally posted by menguard
Yeah it looked like they were popping up out of the oceans, ...

They do indeed 'look like' that. If you didn't know that the camera view was down sun from the shuttle, peering through a shadowed area in the sunlight that is streaming past it on all sides, and that small objects moving out from the shuttle would start out dark (shadowed) but then emerge into sunlight and 'appear', if you didn't know that, then your initial interpretation would seem logical.

Martyn apparently wants to make sure you never catch on to the sunlight conditions -- so he omits information on date/time that would allow those conditions to be established.

He's probably counting on you jumping to the wrong interpretation by deliberately covering up data that could offer another explanation. He wants you only partially informed.

Is that OK with you?

If so, why? I really don't get it.

If you let the whole video load and then play it fast by dragging the time bar, you'll notice that it's space junk that's drifting into the sunlight. They all appear from the same location, even though the earth is spinning as compared to the position of the shuttle. You'll quite clearly see that they're revolving around the earth and the fact that they "light up" all of a sudden is because they enter sunlight.

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by Cmdraleon
Will just have to agree to disagree on what our eyes are seeing here.

If you see with your eyes, you're the only critter on Earth. The rest of us see with our brains based on eye input compared with memory of previous perceptions, and this 'seeing' depends on a lifetime's training in ordinary earthside views.

When you look at space views and try to interpret them in earth terms, it's a recipe for misinterpretation and self-deception, and there's no better example of this than the 'space shuttle UFO videos".

Until you at least admit to yourself that your lifetime's observational training could mislead you, you're hopelessly self-misled.

And you're then a perfect 'UFO buff'.

Jim with all due respect you have been with the very agency that I believe knows more then they are willing to tell regarding these area's .

Asfar as using the brain when you speak of the rest of us I am sure you are not speaking for all of us .

Granted some will agree with your explanation regarding this video .

When you observe the stars you are not doing it with your brain but with your eyes .

You can use the brain do question and debate what you are looking at .

The eye and what the eye is seeing is important .

To me more important then just relying on my brain for the answer to this.

Still the video speaks for itself and yes other things are happening that you will see in a Nasa video that can be explained the objects leaving Earth cannot .

If you open your eyes and look a bit closer you will see that this is happening within the Nasa video.

I still stand with what my observations after looking at the video more then once over and over frame by frame .

You say " When you look at space views and try to interpret them in earth terms, it's a recipe for misinterpretation and self-deception, and there's no better example of this than the 'space shuttle UFO videos".

I disagree with that statement granted maybe and I say maybe some of the Nasa Space shuttle video can be explained with close examination but not all the UFO Videos .

Including this one that we are discussing here.

I believe the very top people at Nasa know what these objects are and also know about Space Beings or People coming and going from Earth aswell.

Which is a whole another thread I might need to start.

Blessings and Peace,
CmdrAleon

Originally posted by Cole DeSteele

This was what I sorted through 4 pages to see if someone beat me to the punch. My thoughts exactly upon first view. The orbital path of these objects is obvious to me, as they cross into sunlight, they become visible, and clearly head away from the camera, not straight out across the field of view out into space.


CDS

Me too Cole, it's quite clear that everything seen other than stars is in Earth orbit, other than a very brief shooting star. You only have to run back and forth the complete video with the pointer. There is also some, what looks like a video artifact in the in the centre, tiny flashing points of light, and that's it. I do wish this OP would shy away from this type of headline-grabbing title, especially when the reality is so different. It's like the boy who cried Wolf! then one day?



[edit on 26-8-2009 by smurfy]

Originally posted by Cmdraleon

Jim with all due respect you have been with the very agency that I believe knows more then they are willing to tell regarding these area's .

That's so convenient: a blank check to ignore any testimony from people who actually work with these technologies and events. Talk about a closed-minded self-blindered reality-free speculationist! Wow.

After watching the video again, it sure makes you wonder why are all the crafts coming up after an electrical storm, now mind you there are space crafts that can create perceptional interference, and interupt the way we are percieving them, they can actually manipulate our perceptional field.

The way our cognitive system picks them up.

I keep getting over and over that they were sending messages into space. There not making civil disputes anymore.