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Originally posted by Republican08
reply to post by avatar01
Hey guys cut this crap out of whos who and what not, your on the internet save this for the pub and what not.
Originally posted by spellbound
Yes, I believe In Jesus Christ. That is where my faith is.
Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by avatar01
You know what?
This as an American thread, and they ignore everyone else.
Don't waste your time posting here.
Originally posted by awood
If there is a god why are we so arrogant to assume that he only created "man" on this one rock we call earth? What would be the purpose of all those other galaxies, stars and so on and so forth?
Faith in "G"od is a mere trick we play on ourselves to explain the things we cannot explain.
Originally posted by awood
Faith in a god is belief without believable evidence...in my opinion.
You've got to have the right perspective on God to know.
But for most other things faith can be modified to be belief with believable evidence.
Based on our known world, the bible isn't believable UNLESS you have faith therefore the bible cannot be used as "believable" evidence to those without faith.
Maybe a lot of people are denying their faith, or are asked on the wrong moments for it in fear of being ridiculed at but in some instances won't.
Can we believe that people can rise from the dead 3 days after death? Most cannot. Based on what all our senses tell us and how our brains comprehend things it's difficult to believe such things.
strenght in faith
Can we believe that a man can heal another man by a simple touch? That a man can part a sea? That a being is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent? Not in the real of a natural belief...or a belief alone.
growth
Why? Because we have no facts, or hard facts that is, that support these events.
we don't work anymore with ourselves, platonic relations with eachother. No constructive interaction anymore (?)
We've never seen a man part the sea or the dead rise.
There have been dead men scratching in their coffings
Everything we've known and recorded as fact in our recent history has no such things occurring. Anyone who has ever tried, has failed.
Can we believe that your spouse will come home from work tomorrow?
When you have true faith you know what is happening to your close ones and others
Can we believe that milk will spoil shortly after its expiration? That plastic will melt in a fire? Sure we can. Why? We've seen it happen.
Have you yet seen otherwise, that plastic didn't melt in the fire. more perfected plastic
It's common knowledge and it doesn't even need to be proven because it's so standard
standards need to be conquered and transformed
that anyone telling us it's not true is laughed at. We've been proved these things happen again and again that we almost don't even have to have faith in them. They just are.
You've lost faith my friend, you shall behold miracles soon!
Faith... belief without proof.
Faith is known powers which therefore hold a strong belief in the God
Can we choose to believe without proof?
Always know that tests can flaw
In my opinion, we cannot. At least, I cannot. No more than I can choose to love someone can I choose to have faith in what appears not only to have no proof but to see proof-less. So proofless in fact that I can't even say it's possible let alone even probable.
Probable makes it possible
I've always maintained that faith isn't taken, it's given. If there is a god why doesn't he just give me the faith that he tells me I must have.
You need to think and behold
I know all about free will and all that jazz... but I can't believe that I even have free will if "G"od is all of those omni's.
It is untill LOVE and all its facets become your will, the other will deranges Love in all its facets.
Can I truly have a choice of my own if someone knew the outcome of every nanosecond of my life a million years before I was even born? Before there were humans on the earth...in a "G"od scenario...it was known the entire outcome of my faith. That if I can make a choice...the result of my choice was already known.
So, to believe without proof is not even possible to choose to do because someone ("G"od) already knew the result of my choice.
The bible wants you to believe untill you know for sure one day
Faith has to be given to those who have it...
No it's not, you know when you reread your sentence, it is allready given to those.
just like anything else has been given to them by "G"od. Otherwise what would be the point of having a choice if the answer was already known. What would be the point to tell a child he has free will to do whatever he likes while you stand back and know he will die at age 14 yrs, 3 months, 6 days, 2 hours, 1 min and 12 seconds into his life because he "chose" to play with daddy's gun and "accidentally" killed himself. If I know that's going to happen, why don't i truly give him free will or just change the event so that he could actually choose to NOT play with the gun?
If you know on forehand you will do something about it normally, won't you?
Faith in the proofless. Why do so few have faith in human beings
Platonic behavior, people don't talk real talk anymore
(not human like) living on other planets billions*billions of miles away? After all, if man was created in "G"ods image... why are we so arrogant to assume that he only created "man" on this one rock we call earth? What would be the purpose of all those other galaxies, stars and so on and so forth?
Certainly they were just put there for our entertainment... right? to let us figure out how to see something so far away and then tease us with a wonder of the impossible knowledge of "does other life exist?"
Faith in "G"od is a mere trick we play on ourselves to explain the things we cannot explain.
That would be false