Originally posted by wayno
It looks like not many of you have a clue what its all about either -- mostly just hyperbole.
I, on the other hand probably have more of a clue than you. I have lived with socialized health care my entire life -- and I can assure you that
no-one is being euthanized in Canada because they are too old or too disabled.
Like I said, "Get a grip". There is a reason that 90% of the world has socialized health care. Your country will not lose its identity or
character by joining them.
Euthanasia is already happening here with hospice. To cut the costs the government will more than likely push this aspect much more to help people
feel comfortable while they are waiting to die, instead of actually trying to actually trying to make people healthy. Right now we have a choice.
Reasonable choice if someone has a living will, but that choice is cut down since the doctors are not tied to healing you no matter what when you go
into the ER. I wouldn't be surprised if the government says insurance won't cover actually healing the person, in favor of making their life
comfortable by forcing pain pills down them while they wait to die.
I'm under health care through welfare right now. There is a procedure I want that would basically kill one medical problem that would enable my
doctor and I to attack two other problems I have. The insurance said no, and that I would have to take another pill every day. I don't want to take
the pill, since I know it will increase one of the problems I have, and won't work. It could very well mess up my system even more. There is more to
it than what I'm saying, but don't want to get deeper into it.
I also got my eyeglasses from the same governmental insurance. Because how bad my eyes are, I need a special thin lens or it will be to heavy for me.
The government wouldn't pay for it, so I had to pay out of pocket for it.
Do I really have a choice? No I don't.
In essence, people will be going from one plan where insurance denies many procedures to a governmental plan that will do the same. Will there be a
difference? From what I read about and in the bill so far, that the government is going to award doctors to reduce how much is paid out. There will be
an incentive for doctors not to argue for a procedure for a patient. I believe the governmental plan will be more severe in what they will allow, and
also in denying procedures.
I know it already happens now, but I suspect will even happen more if this goes through. The doctors will not even mention a procedure that could take
care of the problem, because they will know it will automatically be denied. They will recommend the person be prescribed something for the rest of
their life to control instead of cure their aliment.
Maybe the one difference between you and I is that you trust your government. I don't, and many in the US do not trust our government. Our government
has lied to us year after year after year for many, many years well over ten. They have demonstrated their ignorance towards the US citizen through
the way they handled 911, airport security through homeland defense, hurricane Katerina through FEMA, they way the US government has handled
Afghanistan and IRAN through the war on terror, not telling us the truth behind the rising gas prices, not telling us the truth about how bad the
economy is. Also by destroying our economy back during the Regan days and even before by allowing companies moving overseas taking away our good
paying jobs and leaving us with lower paying to minimum wage jobs through various policies such as NAFTA. The list goes on, and on, and on, and on.
We have good reason not to trust our government and what they are saying. It never seems to matter who gets elected, things have gotten steadily worse
over the long run.
Why should we trust them now with a huge bill with current wording in it that takes away our choices, forces everyone into it, makes everyone pay out
of pocket even if they can't afford it, and raises taxes even more. There will be those that have it for free, but if you make one cent over the cut
off, you have to pay whether you actually can or not.
Health care needs to be reformed, but it could be handled in a much different way that doesn't harm the population over all.
How can we trust the US government to do things right when they didn't with the hurricane Katerina victims, the current crisis with the economy which
they seem to be denying again by saying it is starting to get better, and the handling of the current "war on terror"? That war is just something
they invented to create a fear in us and be able to keep it there so they can take away more of our rights in favor of so called protection. It is a
war that can not be measured or really won.
There is a real reason and fear that the government health care plan will be worse than what is in place right now.