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Originally posted by Kandinsky
Originally posted by win 52
I have no info one way or the other about this. It is interesting to hear about cover up's, worldwide, and the fact people are taking notice.
Other than this is in-part steps on the stairway to full disclosure. When we learn about our past, we will find the path way into the future.
Friend, have you read the thread? There is enough info to come to an informed opinion. If you encourage the spread of a story that claims three species of white native on NZ (pygmy, giant and 'normal'), you're acting as a cat's paw for people that don't want 'disclosure.'
In fact, they want the opposite...they want to seed the ideas that whites are superior in intelligence, technology and society to any other people. The 'red-haired' legends are usually sourced to people that can't or won't accept that S.Americans could build their own monuments or that Giza wasn't built by black guys. Those websites in this thread are coming from a very dark place and your 'path into the future' would be repatriation of non-whites...violence and bigotry. And one thing people always seem to ignore? The shoe could be on the other foot. I ******* hate racists of any color.
Tibet, Stonehenge, Giza, Macchu Pichu...four great places built by four different colored peoples. Four flavors of the Human Race.
Originally posted by Recouper
reply to post by Kandinsky
Wow, fantastic post. Thanks for all the info. So much to read, I think I've gone cross eyed... I've been doing a lot of reading, re-reading, comparing and head scratching.
Ok, so the motivations behind the presentation of the evidence are racist based, dressed up as anti-racist.
The evidence is therefore dismissible as likely falsified. It's disappointing, when lies are presented as facts.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by rapunzel222
Read the links Rapunzel. Look at the evidence trail. All the quotes and pages on the net are linked to the white power organization in NZ. You seem to love a conspiracy, but only in a certain flavor or color? Seems like a ****ing big conspiracy to me. Planting evidence across the internet with a view to displacing people from their rightful place in the land is there to see.
The only way you can support your 'Danikenesque' dream of a lost white race bestowing the gifts of thought to the 'poor natives' is if they airlifted in by choppers. They showed the 'jungle folk' how to count to ten on their fingers, how to create mythology and then packed up their sandwich boxes and were gone. That's the essence of these fairy tales.
If you can challenge anything in what I've shown in those posts, please do so. I'm still interested in the provenance of the bones, maybe you could shed light on them? Until then, take it easy
PS. Might I add that I find your style of writing whilst annoyed very endearing. I guess I'm picturing that scowl again...are you red-haired by any chance?
[edit on 20-8-2009 by Kandinsky]
Originally posted by djusdjus
If you knew that there was a definite chance of the world ending tomorrow because your history shows you how it has happened time and again.
From where would you draw your motivation to be a citizen? to go to work? to raise a family? to believe there is a bright future for yourself or your family.
If everyone actually KNEW what random creatures we were and how fragile we were and how we've been utterly destroyed.
Do you think anyone would care about poverty? aids? cancer? war?
no body would give a darn about anything and societies everywhere would collapse, power would dissolve and we would all kill each other off in a chaotic frenzy to maintain personal territory and access to food and water while we waited out our final days.
The mind is everything. If we shape what the mind is, we shape what our world is. Part of that includes feeding milk to babies and meat to the strong.
the uninitiated would surely self destruct upon knowing, and that is why you have keepers of secret knowledge, the ignorant who scurry about and the yearners, who want to know, but don't really want to be initiated into knowing.
This place is filled with yearners. A yearner has a chaotic mind. It wishes that some external thing will come along and solve all his or her problems for them.
I personally would rather be ignorant. Unfortunately, I can't even have that having been an initiate.
anyway, just saying...
[edit on 8-8-2009 by djusdjus]
All political, racial or personal agendas aside... the facts are the facts and if archeoligical work undertaken that proves our perception of this countries history is incorrect is ignored or hindered in any way whatsoever then the Maori people themselves and our government should feel a great shame and embarresment at what has been allowed to happen.