reply to post by aorAki
Kia Ora ano Aoraki,
Love your user-name by the way...
Absolutely I reckon you can call yourself Tangata Whenua...all it really means when you boil it down and strip away some of the romantic mysticism
around that kupu is: Person/People of the Land.
The true sense of that kupu is about connection to the whenua/land...its that love and link beyond blood and bones to that whenua...its truly a link
that is more on the level of wairua/spirit as opposed to tinana/body...
...in that regards, be ye Maori, be ye Pakeha, kua pai tena...if your heart and soul is linked to that whenua then absolutely IMHO that allows you to
say you are Tangata Whenua...for in doing so you are acknowledging the land and its importance to you moreso than yourself.
....do you think it is possible that some Wahi Tapu are there because of earlier inhabitants and that some Kaitiaki are in possession of knowledge
that will never surface beyond the appropriate levels? ....much like the mysteries of Catholicism perhaps?
I know of some sites in Aotearoa which hold bones etc such as described in this thread.
Those bones, by the very nature, size etc of them - I don't believe, and nor do the kaumatua/elders I know - aren't Maori. They aren't *ours*, or
at least not *ours* as we know.
There is one I know of that is still kept secret to keep safe the resting place of a people who were there prior to that Hapu.
Some sites I'm thinking of are also places which are in some ways seen as...whats a way of describing them, ummm, 'energy nexus'...they are places
where as you say you can just *listen* to it.
They are places that sometimes that *listening* is very literal.
I know of one in particular that emits the stereotypical 'buzzing' sound...like you can hear when standing under highvoltage power pylons and the
They are places you really need to leave your watches and cellphones behind...or its likely they aren't gonna work again. Cost me a nice Seiko
Some of these places are places where certain events have happened, certain rituals have taken place...and as such they are kept out-of-bounds in
order to protect people from wandering around them and picking up some of the more *negative energies* that permiate through them.
So...yes...for some places its not so much about safegaurding what the locals wish to keep hidden, its about safegaurding what was left by others
I also do believe on some levels there are knowledges that will always remain within certain circles.
Again - IMO - thats not about suppression, its about safegaurd.
Knowledge is Power. A little knowledge is dangerous.
As hinted at in the previous reply...some knowledges require whakapapa, require a level of Wairua to hold safe - or more correctly to keep YOURSELF
safe while holding them.
[edit on 10-8-2009 by alien]