Originally posted by Rams59lb
Obama Signs Executive Order Barring Release Of His Birth Certificate
Also your title is very misleading.
Aside from the fact that his birth certificate has already been released to the public, you make it seem as if Obama created an executive order
specifically regarding the release of his birth certificate. He did not. I also wonder if the people who "sniffed" out this little bit of
information actually understand how an executive order works and what it allows. This seems to be in question when they are obviously inferring that
now that he is president, Obama can claim executive priviledge on all of his birth documents and spirit them away in the night to an undisclosed
location never to be seen again.
Don't pull your hair out in a panic just yet!!!
There are a few things you need to be aware of before you jump on the fear wagon and ride this birth certificate issue through this presidents first
First of all, an executive order isn't unquestionable.
A court order can override it should it be found necessary when a president attempts to invoke privilege.
It's that simple, and it has happened before.
This is from a 2007 TIME.com article regarding the former president and his option to claim executive privilege regarding the investigation into the
firing of those eight U.S. attorneys.
Generally speaking, executive privilege is the President's right to withhold certain information from Congress, the courts and most anyone else,
even in the face of a subpoena. It's a conditional privilege, meaning it can be overridden in some circumstances, such as when the President is the
target of a criminal investigation.
That's why President Nixon famously lost his 1974 struggle in the U.S. Supreme Court to keep the Watergate tapes private.
The Executive Privilege Showdown
You understand that this means that claiming executive privilege doesn't allow you to do just about anything you want to, right? If the courts find
the invocation to be of a questionable nature they can override it. There just has to be a good reason to do so, and since the Supreme Court has
already looked at this issue and saw it to be baseless, good luck on trying to make that work out. Anyone wishing to bring this back had better have
something tangible, and NO a hard-right bloggers personal opinions aren't worth a damn.
Another thing you may not know is that Obama cannot retroactively claim "executive privilege" on all personal information starting from his birth up
until when he was sworn into office.
He wasn't the president when he was in diapers.
He CAN claim privilege to information he gathers or is exposed to AFTER he became president, and yes that could be anything he personally has that he
hasn't chosen to reveal. He can try and invoke privileged on those things but in this case, I don't think he needs to.
His birth certificate was already placed online as of June of 2009, and even shown to a few independent investigators for examination. Most of which
had concluded it to be authentic, but that is besides the point and not a fact most want to hear.
The main point is that it is in the public domain now, so he can't just snatch it back and claim privilege on it.
This order will allow him to release the information of the previous president without a hassle and at his discretion. He can CHOOSE what it is he
wants to reveal or hide what he feels we shouldn't see from the Bush administration. I suspect that was part of the intent behind this EO, and not to
hide his birth certificate from a small group of people intent on building a conspiratorial castle out of toothpicks.
This is a bunch of ballyhoo over absolutely nothing and if you take the time to think it through you will see that this isn't the end of your quest
for the long-form.
KEEP IN MIND:
The long-form is as legal as the certificate he did reveal.
BOTH are acceptable by law, just not acceptable to some political conspiracy theorists that want more. Legally that beats the conspiracy complaints
regarding more information, when they have nothing to show by way of evidence that Obama was not born in Hawaii. No Kenya birth certificate, no proof
Obamas mother traveled to Kenya while pregnant, and finally no proof of fraud in the documents from the Obama family.
NOTHING...but "hunches" and "assumption" that is.
So first it was the issue of the "certificate of live birth" not being valid...which fell flat, and now it's the dogmatic quest for a long-form.
What is next after people get the long-form?
If I were Obama I wouldn't release it either, because contrary to what people have claimed...it will not end the debate but rather keep it going.
Further indulgence can lend more credence to these baseless claims.
According to a federal court, and as high as the Supreme one of this land, so far these allegations have absolutely NO merit.
Do you think Obama has the entire Supreme Court in his pocket too, already?
If you want him out of office, find a better horse because this one is looking a bit winded.