reply to post by trace_the_truth
Independence Day, which is celebrated on the fourth of July to commemorate the independence of the nation, again, not necessarily to celebrate events
of a sole day, and yes, you did miss the point, quite badly.
Help, My wife doesn't know why we celebrate July 4th, page 4
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reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 09:01 PM by trace_the_truth
Originally posted by Viking04
reply to post by trace_the_truth
Independence Day, which is celebrated on the fourth of July to commemorate the independence of the nation, again, not necessarily to celebrate events of a sole day, and yes, you did miss the point, quite badly.
It must be nice to be simple. I mean really....
It's as if you are actually proud to know what the fourth of July itself is celebrating.
There are many more subtopics going on in this thread other than "DURR, FORF OF JULY IS TO CEBRELATE INDY PEN DANCE..."
I supposed you missed the whole topic of the OPs point about being not knowing the facts of 4th of July, the liberty bell, and what have you.
Seriously, you need to just back up and view the whole picture, not some little point.
The real topic of this thread is easily "HAHA LOOK AT THE STUPID PEOPLE WE KNOW MORE THAN THEM!"
This thread is basically ego masturbation.
edit to add:
And you've successfully caused me to leave the thread, troll.
[edit on 6-7-2009 by trace_the_truth]
reply posted on 7-7-2009 @ 05:01 PM by LifeIsPeculiar
reply to post by nixie_nox
"Speaking of wearing panties, this whole thread of yours seems nothing more then a brag session at the expense of your wife."
I've don't see it that way. It is frustration voiced over how a US citizen can care so little about the Nation she lives in that she doesn't undesrstand its history. If one doesn't understand the Founding Principles or the structure of government, how can one vote appropriately?
"Speaking of wearing panties, this whole thread of yours seems nothing more then a brag session at the expense of your wife."
I've don't see it that way. It is frustration voiced over how a US citizen can care so little about the Nation she lives in that she doesn't undesrstand its history. If one doesn't understand the Founding Principles or the structure of government, how can one vote appropriately?
reply posted on 7-7-2009 @ 07:22 PM by Jesus H Christ
reply to post by LifeIsPeculiar
Thank you. That's exactly what it is. I think I would have a little bit better understanding why I started my own thread since, well.......I'm the one who started it.lol.
I am frustrated and upset that such basic knowledge stands no chance against American Idol or Dancing with the Stars.
It just hit a little too close to home this time and I was hoping to make myself feel a little better by hearing from other ATS members that they were in the same boat.
What is being attempted is a man bashing session and thread derailment which should be expected from emotional overly sensitive women as opposed to the more intelligent women I have come to expect here on ATS.
Mehhh oh well. It takes a lot more than a simple mind to ruffle my feathers.
Thank you. That's exactly what it is. I think I would have a little bit better understanding why I started my own thread since, well.......I'm the one who started it.lol.
I am frustrated and upset that such basic knowledge stands no chance against American Idol or Dancing with the Stars.
It just hit a little too close to home this time and I was hoping to make myself feel a little better by hearing from other ATS members that they were in the same boat.
What is being attempted is a man bashing session and thread derailment which should be expected from emotional overly sensitive women as opposed to the more intelligent women I have come to expect here on ATS.
Mehhh oh well. It takes a lot more than a simple mind to ruffle my feathers.
reply posted on 7-7-2009 @ 09:22 PM by total_slacker
reply to post by Jesus H Christ
Lest I be accused of dodging the original question let me begin by saying that my wife has a Masters in history and wrote her thesis on the economic conditions in the pre-revolutionary American colonies and the effects of this on the political climate of the day. I know it isn't wise to assume, but I'm going to stick my neck out and guess that if I ask her what July 4th is about, my head will be spinning before she finishes answering. Oh - and since one posting seemed to think that hair color is somehow significant, yes she is blonde and no, it's not from a bottle.
The original poster seems somewhat mortified that his wife wasn't able to answer his question about something that he considers "basic knowledge". Several of the other post authors have seemingly agreed that such a rudimentary bit of knowledge should indeed be basic and shared by every red-blooded American. I think I'll stir the pot a little and ask...why in the world does it matter? Is a knowledge of a history so distant as to almost be worthy of the term "ancient" really a valid qualifier of who is or isn't fit to call themselves American citizens? Who are you to decide that people in the 21st century need to bother themselves with knowledge of the founding fathers that has very little if any practical use in their lives today? In college, as a science major, I was exposed to great deal of information which I no longer need in my daily life. Much of it has faded into oblivion because I just don't use it.
On my bookshelf I have a book called "The American Boy's Handy Book" (D.C. Beard, 1890). Chapter 25 of that book is entitled "Practical Taxidermy for Boys". Now I suspect that there was indeed a time when a basic knowledge of how to skin and stuff birds was useful to many American boys, but now I find it more useful to teach my kids how to avoid phishing sites on the internet.
Tell me, when you voted in this most recent presidential election, did you seriously spend a great deal of time considering the ramifications of the Federalist Papers before casting your ballot(s)? The thoughts and motivations of the founding fathers are simply not that important in the daily lives of most people.
Overall I tend to agree with the poster who suggested that you are merely trolling - trying to stir up trouble because you just like seeing other people get fired up. You prove it by your deliberate choice to use provocative language like "mouthy woman". Since your original question seems to have had a less than forthright motivation, it is of no further interest to me.
I hope you've enjoyed the uproar, but I bet most people posting here didn't get such a thrill out of it. Come to think of it, I guess that does make it a lot like masturbation.....a lot more fun for the one doing it than for anyone else.
Lest I be accused of dodging the original question let me begin by saying that my wife has a Masters in history and wrote her thesis on the economic conditions in the pre-revolutionary American colonies and the effects of this on the political climate of the day. I know it isn't wise to assume, but I'm going to stick my neck out and guess that if I ask her what July 4th is about, my head will be spinning before she finishes answering. Oh - and since one posting seemed to think that hair color is somehow significant, yes she is blonde and no, it's not from a bottle.
The original poster seems somewhat mortified that his wife wasn't able to answer his question about something that he considers "basic knowledge". Several of the other post authors have seemingly agreed that such a rudimentary bit of knowledge should indeed be basic and shared by every red-blooded American. I think I'll stir the pot a little and ask...why in the world does it matter? Is a knowledge of a history so distant as to almost be worthy of the term "ancient" really a valid qualifier of who is or isn't fit to call themselves American citizens? Who are you to decide that people in the 21st century need to bother themselves with knowledge of the founding fathers that has very little if any practical use in their lives today? In college, as a science major, I was exposed to great deal of information which I no longer need in my daily life. Much of it has faded into oblivion because I just don't use it.
On my bookshelf I have a book called "The American Boy's Handy Book" (D.C. Beard, 1890). Chapter 25 of that book is entitled "Practical Taxidermy for Boys". Now I suspect that there was indeed a time when a basic knowledge of how to skin and stuff birds was useful to many American boys, but now I find it more useful to teach my kids how to avoid phishing sites on the internet.
Tell me, when you voted in this most recent presidential election, did you seriously spend a great deal of time considering the ramifications of the Federalist Papers before casting your ballot(s)? The thoughts and motivations of the founding fathers are simply not that important in the daily lives of most people.
Overall I tend to agree with the poster who suggested that you are merely trolling - trying to stir up trouble because you just like seeing other people get fired up. You prove it by your deliberate choice to use provocative language like "mouthy woman". Since your original question seems to have had a less than forthright motivation, it is of no further interest to me.
I hope you've enjoyed the uproar, but I bet most people posting here didn't get such a thrill out of it. Come to think of it, I guess that does make it a lot like masturbation.....a lot more fun for the one doing it than for anyone else.
reply posted on 7-7-2009 @ 10:19 PM by Jesus H Christ
reply to post by total_slacker
WOW. I don't know what to say. I can't believe that there is a person who doesn't know such basin information but even more so, I can believe that there is someone walking around in this country who says it is of no import to know such things.LOL! WTF? Did you really just say that?
I think I need to hear it again, no really. Tell me in plain English that there is no need to know the reason we celebrate the 4th of July. You basically already said it in your last post, however vaguely. All I'm asking for is for you to say it in the Kings English.
This is what scares the hell out of me quite frankly. It's not enough that there are people walkiing aroung out ther without this basic information but, there are actually people who believe we don't need it!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!!!! HOLY ******.
I am Fried.
WOW. I don't know what to say. I can't believe that there is a person who doesn't know such basin information but even more so, I can believe that there is someone walking around in this country who says it is of no import to know such things.LOL! WTF? Did you really just say that?
I think I need to hear it again, no really. Tell me in plain English that there is no need to know the reason we celebrate the 4th of July. You basically already said it in your last post, however vaguely. All I'm asking for is for you to say it in the Kings English.
This is what scares the hell out of me quite frankly. It's not enough that there are people walkiing aroung out ther without this basic information but, there are actually people who believe we don't need it!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!!!! HOLY ******.
I am Fried.
reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 03:00 AM by canadianmouse
Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
reply to post by total_slacker
WOW. I don't know what to say. I can't believe that there is a person who doesn't know such basin information but even more so, I can believe that there is someone walking around in this country who says it is of no import to know such things.LOL! WTF? Did you really just say that?
I think I need to hear it again, no really. Tell me in plain English that there is no need to know the reason we celebrate the 4th of July. You basically already said it in your last post, however vaguely. All I'm asking for is for you to say it in the Kings English.
This is what scares the hell out of me quite frankly. It's not enough that there are people walkiing aroung out ther without this basic information but, there are actually people who believe we don't need it!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!!!! HOLY ******.
I am Fried.
For the record, its the Queen's English.
Also why do you worry so much? As long as people are celebrating it in patriotic pride, that should be enough. Teach those around you but don't get so upset about someone not knowing. Don't sweat the small stuff. Getting so upset over something like this is really rather silly.
reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 09:46 AM by LifeIsPeculiar
reply to post by total_slacker
" I think I'll stir the pot a little and ask...why in the world does it matter? "
It is essential to understand the Founding Principles in order for this Nation to continue to be successful. We were founded on Freedom through minimal government; however, basic freedoms are being voted away with every election. Our current President is a Marxist, and the Congress is rapidly passing laws to turn this Nation toward "Deep Socialism". They are all about control, which is directly opposite freedom.
Most Americans vote like in a high school popularity contest rather than through an understanding of the issues and the consequences of "feel good" legislation. As a direct result of their ignorance, they all vote for tyranny without even knowing that is what they do. This condition has been deepening, and it is entirely due to an ignorant population that votes away their freedoms in exchange for a false sense of security. As the tyranny deepens, their security collapses. Those people don't notice that, because they don't understand anything about the founding of this Nation or the Principles that make it work.
It matters greatly what they know. Sadly, it matters more what they don't know; for, that is why they vote away their own Freedom.
" I think I'll stir the pot a little and ask...why in the world does it matter? "
It is essential to understand the Founding Principles in order for this Nation to continue to be successful. We were founded on Freedom through minimal government; however, basic freedoms are being voted away with every election. Our current President is a Marxist, and the Congress is rapidly passing laws to turn this Nation toward "Deep Socialism". They are all about control, which is directly opposite freedom.
Most Americans vote like in a high school popularity contest rather than through an understanding of the issues and the consequences of "feel good" legislation. As a direct result of their ignorance, they all vote for tyranny without even knowing that is what they do. This condition has been deepening, and it is entirely due to an ignorant population that votes away their freedoms in exchange for a false sense of security. As the tyranny deepens, their security collapses. Those people don't notice that, because they don't understand anything about the founding of this Nation or the Principles that make it work.
It matters greatly what they know. Sadly, it matters more what they don't know; for, that is why they vote away their own Freedom.
reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 09:54 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by Jesus H Christ
Somethign smells funny, it smells a lot like a troll......
Wow, because we just don't have enough of those on ats.
But what is rare is a troll who thinks they are actually getting people fired up, when they are not. So we have a self deluded troll, who didn't get the reaction they wanted, so they made one up!!
Now that made my day.
[edit on 8-7-2009 by nixie_nox]
Somethign smells funny, it smells a lot like a troll......
Wow, because we just don't have enough of those on ats.
But what is rare is a troll who thinks they are actually getting people fired up, when they are not. So we have a self deluded troll, who didn't get the reaction they wanted, so they made one up!!
Now that made my day.
[edit on 8-7-2009 by nixie_nox]
reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 10:01 AM by total_slacker
reply to post by Jesus H Christ
You don't need me to repeat myself. I can tell that you understood me quite well. Just like we no longer need to know how to hunt bison to feed ourselves over the winter, we also don't need to know or care what Washington or Jefferson or Adams thought about universal sufferage or the rights of slaves. I'm perfectly capable of making up my own mind how I think a modern society ought to function and politically aware enough to vote for the candidates who I think will best agree with my agenda.
While I find that a knowledge of history is indeed very useful to me, knowledge, like logic, is just a tool to be used. It is one of many I have at my disposal and not necessarily the most important one. Intuition and instinct have their place also.
What I would like to hear, rather than sputtering pronouncements of disbelief and astonishment, is WHY you think this knowledge is of such importance that you think it is worth demeaning your own wife, who you claim to love. What is it about July 4th in particular that gets you so intensely upset? I wonder, do you put the same importance on your own wedding anniversary?
You don't need me to repeat myself. I can tell that you understood me quite well. Just like we no longer need to know how to hunt bison to feed ourselves over the winter, we also don't need to know or care what Washington or Jefferson or Adams thought about universal sufferage or the rights of slaves. I'm perfectly capable of making up my own mind how I think a modern society ought to function and politically aware enough to vote for the candidates who I think will best agree with my agenda.
While I find that a knowledge of history is indeed very useful to me, knowledge, like logic, is just a tool to be used. It is one of many I have at my disposal and not necessarily the most important one. Intuition and instinct have their place also.
What I would like to hear, rather than sputtering pronouncements of disbelief and astonishment, is WHY you think this knowledge is of such importance that you think it is worth demeaning your own wife, who you claim to love. What is it about July 4th in particular that gets you so intensely upset? I wonder, do you put the same importance on your own wedding anniversary?
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