reply to post by grapesofraft
oh i don't hate anybody.
i do have a problem with anybody making decisions that affect me directly without my having any knowledge or input on the matter.
like a guy trying to rob me....if he is rich or poor makes no difference.
it is my decision to
offer wealth or material.
it is not his decision to
take it.
the principle is known as liberty.
there is a lot of talk about those kinds of decisions and a lot of it comes from people who don't KNOW, and therein lies (part of) the problem.
somebody here quoted d. rockefeller.
i know that quote.
this one too:
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings
and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had
been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. "
- David Rockefeller, June 1991 Baden, Germany
and this one:
"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us."
- George H. W. Bush, December 1992
and this one:
“The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes”
-US Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter (1882-1965)
and this one:
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
- Benjamin Disraeli, 1844
and particularly this one:
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce
and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so
interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
-Woodrow Wilson - in “The New Freedom” (1913)
.along with a few hundred others i've collected, all stated for the record by well known people of the world, all having to do with the same subject,
from one perspective or another.
these men are not "conspiracy theorists".. they are leaders, many are men of long bloodlines of power and influence, or had direct knowledge of
them.
those of you that are dismissive should really catch up on history.
"elitism" has been going on for a long, long time and only a person unknowledgeable of humanity's history would deny or attempt to diminish the
importance of this fact.
i don't hate any of them.
i never used to even think about them.
i began to think about them when i began to read history.
i think about them alot, now.
this is what bothers me : why all the secrecy?
i think it comes down to choices made and choices to be made.
the phrase "you can't please everyone" applies.
now its a matter of trust.. for me, at least.
how do you trust anyone who is holding back on you?
when did life become a poker game?
does money or power or influence or a five century long bloodline
really authorize an "elite" to make certain decisions?
...like perhaps this one?
"1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."
-The Georgia Guidestones, erected March 22, 1980 (which, as it happens, has its own mysteries of origin)
.. i don't have a problem with the rest of what is on that monument, but...
who gets to decide that?
when?
how?
what "culling process" is to be used?
is there to be suffering?
i don't much care how it regards me, i'm old and maybe even useless, but i have a lovely grand-daughter who lives cleanly and with honesty and
compassion.
i would despise anyone that would think they have a right to decide whether she lives or dies.
He presumes everyone is sitting on their
BUTTS[b**** that they want more money], that was the point I was trying to make, most people I know are not sitting on their Butts, mostly they
complain because they just want equal treatment and respect! 
