I won't deny that there are definitely some very racist/hateful people that hate Jews simply because they are Jewish. Same with people hating blacks, gays, Muslims, etc.

But denying the holocaust isn't racist. I believe the holocaust happened but I don't see others that don't believe it happened as being racist. They are simply skeptical in that it seemed to only further an agenda. It's really no different than any other conspiracy.

It's also the same as some people who think that blacks use slavery as an excuse to further agendas. That doesn't make someone a racists. It means they simply have a view that one shouldn't use atrocities committed against their race in the past as a justification for, in turn, hating others or gain sympathy for short-comings. (and I'm not referring to blacks fighting for their civil liberties in the 60's. They deserved that and were noble in their cause.)

It's also the same as Americans using 9/11 as an excuse to go around the world and invade various countries (that would be THREE so far!) to bring them to democracy. It doesn't make you a terrorist sympathizer for condemning it, it simply means that your sick of America using an event to justify destruction of sovereign countries.

As for Israel...I don't hate Jewish people just because I'm thoroughly disgusted by the Israeli GOVERNMENT using anti-antisemitism/the holocaust as an excuse to murder thousands of Palestinians and take their land away from them.

Just like it doesn't mean that I hate my country because I am thoroughly disgusted by my GOVERNMENT using 9/11 as an excuse to murder thousands of Muslims and take my rights away from me.

Originally posted by cranberrydork

Originally posted by Ludde
Current Israel is the first modern day dilemma where religion is inter-weaved with citizenship and there is no separation

yeah? so?

why does it make any difference to you?

do you want to live there and they wont let you? is that it?

you got some serious hating going on inside yourself

No thanks, I'm quite content and happy where I am, wish I could say the same for you. If nobody wants to take the Jews then why are you getting angry at me? If I had the power I would try to make everything right, however the Israeli government is a selfish one, and will not agree to anything that will bring peace. Hell, they're trying to boycott America instead of complying with a simple two state agreement. What a user said
before me is absolutely true, they feed off of countries, like parasites, and then leave it. They're no friend of America's, they're
no friends of anyone but themselves. Fortunately, their power doesn't come from God, and the powder keg they created will soon explode. Also, to the user who said something about Jerusalem/ancient Israel belonging to today's Israel, *read a book*, there was no such religion practised by the Hebrew Israelites which was called Judaism, and Jew is an English mistranslation of the Tribe of Yehdah, and the Khazar are not of the tribe bloodlines, meaning they have absolutely ZERO connection to ancient Israel, and basically plagiarised its name. The falsities travel deep, deep into this forum. Judaism is a man-made religion that attempts to emulate Ancient Israel, that DOES not make its practitioners the original bloodline, hell if you could change your blood because you change religion that would be a scientific miracle, basically, they're acting the original and authentic Israelites.

The whole thing about anti-semitism is that is a fictitious and constructed joke.

I mean really - who else has a word to describe people hating their race or country?

Even the races that suffered slavery such as the Africans don't have a special word for it - they just call it racism - is it anti-blackism? I don't think so.

The Jews have turned whining into an art form - holocaust? - how about the 50 or so million Russians who were killed under Stalin? The number of Jews killed by Hitler is trivial in comparison - but the Jews have a special word for it? Come again?

If people really do hate Jews - or more specifically Zionists - so what? Harden the fk up and stop crying like babies. Plenty of people hate Americans too - but most would realize its because of their countries foreign policy - bomb enough people in enough countries, and sure your going to get some hate.

Israel and America both have sick foreign policies that are responsible for torture and aggressive acts of war. The difference is that most American people realize that their foreign policy sucks - and that killing innocent people for profit and using torture are not okay - they don't support the government in following aggressive wars.

Tell the Americans to get the hell out of Iraq - and most people would agree that's it a pretty good idea.

On the other hand - tell Israel to get the hell out of Palestine - oh dear - that's anti-semitism.

The other thing people don't like is the undue influence that Jews have over western government and banking - and the fact they use this influence to further Zionist agenda's.

The number of Jews in the shadow and actual government of the US is staggering, but Jews represent some 0.2% of the population?

A quick run through on the members of the Bilderberg meetings realizes a disproportionate number of Jews in comparison to the population - and the Bilderscum are nobodies friends - so bad luck for having so many Jews on that black list.

How about Judaism itself - which teaches that Jews are special people, who are above the rest and have the right to rule? Other religions seek to spread the message to sinners and help the unfortunate - but Judaism seems to promote discrimination and non integration.

I don't care what color your skin is - where you come from - or what clothes you wear - but I do judge people based on their values and behaviors.

That is - I judge people based on their culture and how it measures up against the basic ethical and moral codes.

When someone lives in a certain country - they have an obligation to adjust their own culture to meet a minimum standard within their country of residence - to abide by the cultural norm of that country - if not - then they have no business calling themselves citizens - and they should return to their own nation.

Originally posted by Amagnon
The whole thing about anti-semitism is that is a fictitious and constructed joke.

I mean really - who else has a word to describe people hating their race or country?

Even the races that suffered slavery such as the Africans don't have a special word for it - they just call it racism - is it anti-blackism? I don't think so.

Tell the Americans to get the hell out of Iraq - and most people would agree that's it a pretty good idea.

On the other hand - tell Israel to get the hell out of Palestine - oh dear - that's anti-semitism.

Exactly.

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Originally posted by breakingdradles
Your not special, your just like the rest of us

You got that right buddy