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…when someone steps forward and predicts something like this, and gives a specific date, they are doing nothing but setting themselves up as a messianic figure, and this can lead to trouble.
When Prophecy Fails is a 1956 classic book in social psychology by Leon Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter about a UFO cult that believes the end of the world is at hand.
Prior to December 20. The group shuns publicity. Interviews are given only grudgingly. Access to Keech's house is only provided to those who can convince the group that they are true believers. The group evolves a belief system—provided by the automatic writing from the planet Clarion—to explain the details of the cataclysm, the reason for its occurrence, and the manner in which the group would be saved from the disaster.
December 20. The group expects a visitor from outer space to call upon them at midnight and to escort them to a waiting spacecraft. As instructed, the group goes to great lengths to remove all metallic items from their persons. As midnight approaches, zippers, bra straps, and other objects are discarded. The group waits.
12:05 A.M., December 21. No visitor. Someone in the group notices that another clock in the room shows 11:55. The group agrees that it is not yet midnight.
12:10 A.M. The second clock strikes midnight. Still no visitor. The group sits in stunned silence. The cataclysm itself is no more than seven hours away.
4:00 A.M. The group has been sitting in stunned silence. A few attempts at finding explanations have failed. Keech begins to cry.
4:45 A.M. Another message by automatic writing is sent to Keech. It states, in effect, that the God of Earth has decided to spare the planet from destruction. The cataclysm has been called off: "The little group, sitting all night long, had spread so much light that God had saved the world from destruction."
Afternoon, December 21. Newspapers are called; interviews are sought. In a reversal of its previous distaste for publicity, the group begins an urgent campaign to spread its message to as broad an audience as possible.
"If more and more people can be persuaded that the system of belief is correct, then clearly it must after all be correct."
A belief must be held with deep conviction and it must have some relevance to action, that is, to what the believer does or how he behaves.
The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual's commitment to the belief.
The belief must be sufficiently specific and sufficiently concerned with the real world so that events may unequivocally refute the belief.
Such undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur and must be recognized by the individual holding the belief.
The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence that has been specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, the belief may be maintained and the believers may attempt to proselyte or persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct.
All it takes, is for someone who may be a religious fanatic to read this and go off the deep end.
Are such people aware of the inevitability of their own _____ and should such people if they are that sensitive to what they read and hear be listening to the world news, reading the paper and viewing other graphic material going on in the world when it comes to War, Starvation, Abuse and so on?
Originally posted by ET_MAN
reply to post by Maiden PEI
Hi Maiden PEI,
Just sent you a U2U
Get back to the remaining questions within a 24hr period.
Originally posted by Cogito, Ergo Sum
That's good information pepesilvia. There are many indicators of cults of different types and teachings. There are many who have come to realize they have been in a cult, or simply had their lives and world view dictated by what is essentially cult teachings. Not a nice feeling, effects can last for a long time after breaking free. Strange that those who feel the most immune from these things are often the most affected, often members or proponents of various beliefs...Some have been so conditioned and had their world view changed so much they never really leave, in a psychological sense. Or truly get past the teachings they have accepted.
There is a lot of stigma around this subject, sadly. Some myths are that those who perpetuate these things are always intentionally lying, always out for money or evil and should be demonized. While this could happen, from what I have seen, these people are usually quite genuine in their beliefs. The same as those who come under their spell. Often very nice, well intentioned, intelligent people. Though in the more well known instances, leaders become corrupt to the point of insanity, there are countless less well known that don't seem to. Even then no one chooses to become insane on purpose.
Though back to the point as I am sure no one is classifyng the OP as anything like this. Though it is still good to be wary of information presented in certain ways. To think carefully before swallowing the cool-aid.
Benedict09, thank you for that. Also for the manner you presented it. Seems a very understanding and intelligent response, very nicely worded. Though I don't agree with everything presented here, or perhaps even much of it, my perspective is hopefully not to be seen as a personal attack on anyone. That would be rediculous. It is meant more, hopefully, as another perspective on what is presented and the way it is done. One that I feel could be relevant and possibly worth considering. Thanks.
[edit on 1-6-2010 by Cogito, Ergo Sum]
Initially I wasn't going to create my site. I understood that many are not aware and would be skeptical of the greater knowledge of the Earth change events to come.
Furthermore, individuals need to realise they must ALWAYS take responsibility for their own actions,
knowing right from wrong behaviour towards others.
Spiritual awareness/growth, only raises frequency and that is the main aim and positive intention here as you know.
Our free will choices are our own and they will be recorded and judged as our own.
It doesn’t matter that he says we don’t have to listen, the fact is many will.
I don’t agree with religion, but I have a belief.
It should be clear now that I am not here to discuss your knowledge, but would rather explore just why you are doing what you are doing.
This thread is meant to pull you in.
On January 15, 1981, our research group began receiving a communication
from the social memory complex, Ra. From this communication
precipitated the Law of One and some of the distortions of the Law of One.
RA: I am Ra. The identity of the vibration Ra is our identity.
RA: “In truth there is no right or wrong.”
ET_MAN has everyone's best intentions in mind, being aware and preparing for earth changes or disasters (even marital law kind) is a very good thing, and humanity has been prevented from being self sufficient and made into fragile dependents, who cannot survive even a long term power outage.
This thread is like David Icke's interview by Project Camelot, where he said in response to those who think he should not be speaking of anything negative.
(paraphrased) "If a tornado is coming and your head is buried in the sand, then you're going to get spanked really hard. You first need to lift your head out of the sand, look to see whats coming, and make good choices"
I don’t believe ET_MAN is in anyway promoting this message of doom/love for malicious reasons,
indeed I think he has a good heart,
Originating, existing, occurring, outside the earth or it’s atmosphere, extraterrestrial life.
Existing, taking place, or coming from outside the limits of the earth.
Originating, located, or occurring outside Earth or its atmosphere: intelligent extraterrestrial life. An extraterrestrial being or life form.
General rules and guidelines for anyone asking questions.
1- I will decide what questions to answer. If your question is not answered, it is because I have chosen not to answer the question or because I'm not permitted to answer the question. If your question is lacking in courtesy, decency and/or respect I have the right to not answer your question.
2- I have a limited amount of time being engaged in other things. I will not waste my time on inappropriate, discourteous, insensible or disrespectful questions.
When it comes to ET information and experiences, I've intentionally avoided certain information/topics/material and with good reason.
This thread is meant to pull you in.
That is your own opinion and everyone-1 is entitled to their own opinion. Blujay has brought up her ego issues seen throughout this thread among others but evidently she is still working on them because she finds time to send me negative U2U's making false accusations/assumptions/judgments against me. It reveals a lot about yourself Blujay.
You've had a really hard time with this thread and I see that it has affected you greatly insomuch that you feel compelled to send me negative comments, U2U's and so on.
Blujay I can only say that I send you Positivity and LOVE.
I told you in a U2U that I have no interest in you or your opinions,
Alright, I will cower here and post the negative U2U I sent
What is really happening here is that their egos,
I deleted the one you sent me about how you KNOW who I am, and commented on my daughters' looks.
you are still stuck on the Law of One!!!
you COULD be leading them to the slaughter.
You sure have a lot of anger towards those questioning you
editing to add that I love you man.