Originally posted by fxmodels
Anyone who understands how slab/exoskeleton construction works was not at ALL surprised with how the towers collapsed. The same exact thing happened right here in CT prior to the WTC collapse in a building being built exactly the same way... The top floor gave way and pancaked straight down one on top of the next, with the exoskeleton tumbling in on top of it as the floors passed... Just like the WTC. It looked completely engineered yet it was just a horrible accident. 20 workers or so were killed and the nearby buildings were completely unscathed! Just nearly like the WTC except they were not unscathed. Ok conspirators... tell me THAT was a dry run... heh heh.. except before you do, keep in mind that the investigation showed clearly that the upper floor hangars were made of inferior steel.
[edit on 2-7-2009 by fxmodels]

Originally posted by LiamClancy
I've been aching for years to get some of this off my chest. Reading this thread is as good a reason as any. I was a 1st Responder at the WTC- sent in at the behest of the US Army-from 9/11-9/15 and subsequently I worked for FEMA Region II HQ at the federal building in Manhattan. I hope this qualifies me as a first hand witness. I was IN building 6 before it collapsed. People were evacuating what they could before the building was sealed off. I saw it collapse and there was no controlled demolition. At the time I was certified in demolitions and I would have recognized the reports associated with any blasts used to detonate a building. The scene was labeled a crime scene and photographers (meaning the press) were excluded for good reason -body parts were scattered everywhere. This did not stop 1st responders from taking pictures. I have two rolls of film from my time there and consider the photos a personal possession I would never share. FEMA was activated instantly because their office and ops center is only afew blocks away from the WTC site. They were on board so quickly because three FEMA staffers from their National Preparedness division were walking back from a meeting at 6 WTC when the first plane hit that morning. The external ops center at the pier was already set up to host a pre-planned exercise. Most FEMA workers are reservists so any major exercises need prior logistical planning that takes many days to complete -the NYC FEMA staff is under 70 people in the office with less than a dozen working on disaster response. FEMA in Manhattan also has a very close working relationship with the city. It only takes minutes for them to get informed, then involved in a situation. The folks at FEMA were also watching their friends die - most employees are former city employees or 1st responders. I'd say their response time was appropriate and driven by that motivation. (However, even FEMA experienced problems. Several employees simply went AWOL after the attack...one for over 2 weeks). Despite the theories, I never heard even a whisper about any secrets involving the WTC. Up until 2005 most of the guys who would have had that knowledge were still being counseled for PTSD -not the kind of people you'd expect to keep deep dark secrets. Having had access to all of the WTC materials before they went to the FEMA study and 9/11 Commission, I never saw anything unusual or suggestive of any conspiracy. If there is, it was conducted out of Washington DC. As far as this Sonnefield character stating that evidence was destroyed - he's right. It was buried under millions of tons of debris, dug up, trucked out to a landfill and only a fraction of it was sifted -mostly looking for human remains and personal effects. I personally saw part of a jet engine in the street but nothing more during my 4 days on the site. Perhaps more evidence materialized during the site excavation. Hope this provides some insight!

posted by LiamClancy

This did not stop 1st responders from taking pictures. I have two rolls of film from my time there and consider the photos a personal possession I would never share.