Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
Yes, I happen to believe it's okay to make a crude joke about an adult woman.
See, this is what I'm referring to. Would it be ok to make salacious jokes about your mother, in the local supermarket? I mean, she put herself in
the public, so it should be ok for someone to discuss her sex life and infer that she is easy to get into bed?
No?
When did respecting someone stop being important.
I never said the joke was tasteful, but I don't think it should be taken so seriously.
If the people being joked about take it seriously, that is all that counts.
If I posted a thread about someone on another forum slandering their person in a humorous manner, and that thread seriously embarrassed them and
caused them humiliation, I wouldn't go around high fiving people saying "Well she deserved it. She's Fair Game!"
Id see the pain I caused, and retract my comments.
A better person would not have taken the low road to laughs in the first place.
If the right really cared about women being sexualized non of the popular right wing pundits would be popular. I thought it was the right that
was always getting pissed off at double standards with women and political correctness? Would you be so offended if a similar joke was about Britol's
old boyfriend? Do you only think women should be off limits or are tasteless jokes about men sexist too?
Well I'm not right wing.
But I do see the double standards in today. It's OK to have a man strut around in a g-string at a hens night, and for anything to occur. No one goes
on about it exploiting the bloke. And in my opinion, if that gets everyone smiling, so be it.
But you put a stripper at a bucks night, and the bra-burners are up in arms.
Regardless, if they choose to dance around naked, it gives no one any right to slander them publically, to denigrate them to nothing of worth and
treat them with disrespect.
However, this is about a young lady and publically attacking her personally. That is not on, in my opinion. She did nothing to warrant being
publically attacked for her personal and private choices.
As I said before, I am not so much arguing the point that letterman made a bad joke... it's the justification of it from people that I find
offensive.
No woman, no man, deserve to have their worth belittled because of their personal lifestyle.
A bit like saying it's OK to rape prostitutes, because hey, they asked for it and they are sluts anyway, so it's fair game.
Making a joke and raping are entirely separate things, you're dramatizing the situation to make a weak point.
Oh twaddle. You're saying she is fair game. FAIR GAME?
Why? What gives anyone any right to treat her with such disrespect and cause her personal grief in public, just because of things she has done in her
personal life which happen to conflict with statements made later?
Nothing she has done warrants being treated as an object. Anymore than if it were your own mother or sister.
I do not see it as any different than someone who thinks a prostitute deserved to be raped because she was obviously a slut and therefore Fair
Game.
Note - I said THINKS. Not RAPES. Obviously the act is a far from from a joke, and something I'm familiar with having had a close relative suffer it.
BUT the mind set of people who lay blame on the victim is no different.
Someone in Australia once said that it is a woman's fault if she is raped, if she wears skimpy clothing, saying "Who's fault is it if you put bare
meat on the street, and the cats come along and eat it? Is it the cats fault? No it is the meats fault. If she was in her house, in her home where she
belongs, she would not have been in that situation."
That was in response to a gang rape of a teenage girl, btw, when one of the perpetrators subsequently got 55 years in jail.
Nice to know that anyone who disagrees with you apparently has no respect for women just because they don't stomp their foot over one crude
joke.
It is not that you are not stomping your feet, I don't care if you do an irish jig about it. It's your opinion that she somehow deserves it. Fair
Game.
Almost scientologist in it's sound....
You just wouldn't hear this sort of joke made at some 18 year old guys expense. I guess it's because you wimmin are just
objects.
I hear jokes about young men too, sometimes I find them tasteless and sometimes they're just as funny as poking fun at women. Just like with the
Bristol joke they're usually directed at a person, not an entire gender. Equating a joke about her to a cheap shot at all females is a pretty tall
claim, but hey, it's your opinion. So, those conservatives attacking Sotomayor, are they attacking all women and all Latinos? Are people mocking
Obama mocking all blacks?
As I said up there, there is indeed a double standard with gender based situations, no matter if it's a trade, a profession or humorous.
I've never heard a salacious joke about prince harry or prince william. I guess they being males, it's funnier to attack them for other things, but
with women, the sad goldmine of sexual attacks is still alive and well.
Either way, I wont be opening doors for blokes anytime soon, but will still be courteous and do that for women - at least here some still appreciate
that.
"Women and children first!" - 1909
"Bugger off, they can drown just as well as I can!" - 2009
