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Originally posted by Kaytagg
Thanks again, religion. You've really made the world a worse place (again.)
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Originally posted by havanaja
At a recent NASA meeting, I asked if the Mars explorers had analyzed the subsurface Mars ice slush for "clathrate structures that might contain entrapped organics". My simple, and I thought rational question was met with not just a "No" or "good idea, thanks", or "Yes, we analyzed and fouind nothing",...but instead there was an abrupt change of subject. Absolutely no response of any kind to the question. As a materials technologist, this made me immediately suspect something was up. After more time to think, I seriously feel there are technical discoveries, perhaps more, that NASA is not releasing.
New research reveals there is hope for Mars yet. The first definitive detection of methane in the atmosphere of Mars indicates the planet is still alive, in either a biologic or geologic sense, according to a team of NASA and university scientists.
Methane -- four atoms of hydrogen bound to a carbon atom -- is the main component of natural gas on Earth. It's of interest to astrobiologists because organisms release much of Earth's methane as they digest nutrients. However, other purely geological processes, like oxidation of iron, also release methane. "Right now, we don’t have enough information to tell if biology or geology -- or both -- is producing the methane on Mars," said Mumma. "But it does tell us that the planet is still alive, at least in a geologic sense. It's as if Mars is challenging us, saying, hey, find out what this means." Mumma is lead author of a paper on this research appearing in Science Express Jan. 15.
Organic chemicals are not the only substance that we may have missed on the Red Planet (see above). We should have seen carbonate salts littering the surface.
Weathering breaks down basalt, the dominant rock in the planet's crust, into a clay plus positive ions. These ions should react with carbon dioxide in the Martian atmosphere to form carbonate salts, explains Ralph Milliken at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.
Orbiters have spotted clay on Mars but few carbonates or other salts. We shouldn't assume that they aren't there, however, Milliken says.
Originally posted by zorgon
Where is that money going? Right here
Wheeling Jesuit University
Just Google NSF JESUIT and follow the money
1 Johns Hopkins U., 1,499,977
2 Stanford U. 679,196
3 U. PA 676,052
4 Duke U. 657,080
5 Cornell U. 648,802
95 Wheeling Jesuit U 4,499 i
R&D expenditures at private universities and colleges, ranked by all R&D expenditures for the first 100 institutions, by source of funds:
Originally posted by Parallex
So, the question remains: have attempts to explore Mars been secretly scuppered by religious scientists keen to keep planet Earth “special”? Have they been hiding their sabotage under a veil of incompetence? Or is it that scientists really can be astonishingly incompetent without any outside help? Only Dan Brown’s next novel can tell us
I think the bold text shown here will give you an idea of why this article was written.
Enough said. Sorry to wee on your bonfire.
Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by romanmel
So let me see if I got this straight,,, you point out the article is only to promo the book...
and the next line you write is a promo for "Dark Mission"
Originally posted by Pauligirl
If you follow the money you'd be looking at
95 Wheeling Jesuit U 4,499 i
WHEELING, WV — A grant of almost $750,000 will allow the Center for Educational Technologies® at Wheeling Jesuit University to develop online courses on astronomy and Earth science for high school students.
The grant is one of nine proposals NASA is funding for a total of $11.5 million over two years, the space agency announced this week. The selected proposals illustrate innovative approaches to using NASA-themed content in support of secondary-level teaching and learning, with a particular emphasis on high school education.
The National Technology Transfer Center (NTTC) has entered its 20th year of providing technology transfer services for federal facilities of our nation. Our work has provided clients with technical and market research expertise dedicated to meeting the complex needs of technology transfer organizations, while providing close support focusing on customer service. NTTC is inspired by the technologies developed at our federal R&D institutions, and is proud of our work commercializing and disseminating federal innovation for the betterment of our nation's economy.
Originally posted by Paveway27Why dont they try looking for that instead of just thinking inside the box and not using their imagination?
Originally posted by alienesque
The American space agency (Nasa) has its own money worries and is keen to share the cost of Mars exploration with Europe.
Nasa will sign a "letter of intent" to this effect at a bilateral meeting in Plymouth, UK, on 30 June.
This would mean all future Red Planet missions being badged Nasa/Esa projects.
Originally posted by palehorse28uk
I dont know the truth about life on mars but the article in the times is promoting a book.It may not be Dan browns but it is Michael brooks book 13 things that dont make sence which the argument in the article is pretty much lifted from.There is even a link to the times review of it at the top.
Originally posted by sandman692
It seems to me in reading that article, that NASA seems to not follow protocol. let me explain what i mean...
In the army, there is protocol for everything. there is protocol for how PT is conducted. There is protocol for how flags are raised and lowered. There is protocol for EVERYTHING.
So why is it that NASA, which is supposed to have under its wing the best and the brightest minds, seems to jack up everything they try to do?
because they don't follow PROTOCOL.
I don’t think they are a “waste” of money. They’re probably doing EXACTLY what they are supposed to be doing. Most of the tax payer money allocated to NASA is not even used for NASA operations. I can guarantee that much.
how is it that when two teams are working on a project together, they each use different measuring systems?? you've got imperial on one side, metric on the other?? That's breaking the cardinal rule of science right there. when you work together, you compare notes, ideas, etc, so that any problems in reasearch can be found and routed out. This makes it seem as though these 2 teams worked on a common project, and never once got together to compare notes. insane.
they should just scrap nasa and let the private sector take over, because they are the biggest waste of money. ever.
how are you gonna ask for billions of dollars of taxpayer money, and botch the whole thing because you didn't compare notes? you should be fired.