Excellent thread.

My stance is, and has always been, that we cannot discount the possibility of life on Mars without actually putting humans on the planet to go look.

After all microbial life has been discovered here on earth as far down as 7.5 miles into the crust. We've drilled holes and mines as deep as our current technology allows us to, and we've found microbial life present every step of the way.

This leads scientists to ponder whether life actually started on the surface, or if it originated in the subsurface, and eventually found it's way to the surface.

Some geologists speculate that there is as much as 10 times the amount of water trapped within Earths mantle rock as there is in all of the surface oceans. Could the same not hold true for Mars? Perhaps conditions for martian microbial life are not ideal until 10, 15 or 20 miles below the surface. Perhaps it's not carbon based in the first place. Perhaps, just perhaps, we know a lot less than we think we do about life in general.

I've seen this somewhere before...a while ago. Hmm

Reading the times eh!!!

Nice find yet again.

Gilbert Levin, who ran the 1976 experiment to search for life, the one that got a positive result, thinks it’s all down to a religious conspiracy...

Well, score another one for religion. Possibly 40+ years of proof that we are not alone, and the religious people throw a fit, and decide that they have to sabotage billion dollar space missions, and misinform the public about what's really going on.


Thanks again, religion. You've really made the world a worse place (again.)

Dermo:
I'm in a rush here on this reply as I have to get some yard-work done before dark so I'll try to be short. (Be forewarned though, I'm not good at keeping things short when it comes to something I feel passionate about.) Your post, as well as several of the replies I read, are right on the money. I think America has reached the point where almost every department needs to be conducted, in some ways, like a private business. I mean this only in a few ways, not entirely. Only one thing matters for each department, results, results, and one other thing, better results as time goes on!!! If every "department head" operated like the CEO of a company, and had to answer for their departments errors, budgets, lack of meeting goals & expectations, etc., etc., I believe we would live in a much more efficient country. Efficiency would eventually lead to success, and that success would eventually equal a better economy. And that my friends, would lead to the United States once again becoming a country to be proud to be born in. (Using different measuring systems my a-s-s!!!!) This is really awesome, we can't trust our government when it comes to being told the truth, or we can't trust our government to not screw up billion dollar projects due to minute matters, or more than likely - both.
(When I reach my 20 posts and am allowed to start my own threads like a grown up, I'll tell you how I really feel about our F.U.Gt.)

Peace Eveyone,
Chris

Fantastic find I just sent this link to my network...

Times is definitely a good voice. As you say reaches millions, not counting the millions more indirectly that see this through this thread at ATS

Tongue in Cheek... sure but that is okay. I have noticed that humans generally laugh and joke at the unexpected. Its like a defense mechanism. But it's normally a very nervous form of humor.

Point is main stream is taking notice that something doesn't make sense. The perchlorate issue was brushed over when it was first announced. Perchlorates are not a normal thing to find abundantly in soil

For those who don't know, its also a residue after extensive bombing as well as rocket fuel. While some does form naturally on Earth, its not common. That is why when they first announced it it was important

I hope there will be follow ups but this is news in my world

As a wild stab in the dark I'm going to go on record and say that NASA didn't mess up ~ THEY LIED... I couldn't have gotten through my secondary school exams with the principals they're using as research and analysis AND we all know it.

They may or may not have found what we're guessing at, but there's no way they messed it up.

Originally posted by MadMatt
Interesting. After reading this I went to www.marsanomalyresearch.com and found that there´s some huge problems with the site.

Really? My site was completely down most of the day today... power failure at the main server. Its back now but even Youtube was out for a while today...

Curious indeed... I will drop skipper a note and see what happened

Originally posted by kiwifoot

Nobody cared!
I guess ABN sucks!

Dang it your thread was posted three days ago on the 12th and no one rattled my chain? Wonder why it missed my radar

Happens sometimes but three days for this kind of news? must be a conspiracy

Some people have pointed out the plug for Dan Brown's book at the end, but I'd like to point out that his new book "The Lost Symbol" has had no details released about the plot, so either the author of this article has some inside info about the book, or he's simply making a passing speculation.