Female vigilante 'led drugs raid on illegal immigrant home' where girl and father were shot dead

Originally posted by Divinorumus
but maybe that's why America needs to become as dirt poor as Mexico .. then maybe one day they'll understand that we are ALL part of humanity. I will be laughing my butt off the day Americans find it necessary to sneak into Canada (or Mexico, HAR!) in search of a better life! Yeah, I'll be laughing laughing laughing.

Mexico's GDP is actually ranked 13th worldwide...considering how many countries there are in the world, it's not SO dirt poor, too bad that there are so many social differences there.

Mexico GDP rank

Originally posted by haika

Originally posted by Divinorumus
but maybe that's why America needs to become as dirt poor as Mexico .. then maybe one day they'll understand that we are ALL part of humanity. I will be laughing my butt off the day Americans find it necessary to sneak into Canada (or Mexico, HAR!) in search of a better life! Yeah, I'll be laughing laughing laughing.

Mexico's GDP is actually ranked 13th worldwide...considering how many countries there are in the world, it's not SO dirt poor, too bad that there are so many social differences there.

Mexico GDP rank

You and the other poster have stumbled onto what the elites have planned for America. They are instituting the Mexican caste system in America.

reply to post by Mdv2


Another reason to legalize "Drugs".

There would be little to no crime for where would the money flow from, no black market for drugs, less criminals.

........I hope she burns in the core of the sun robo-bit*snip*

If the robbery had been successful ,and no one had been hurt. She would have been hunted like a wild animal by the people profitting from the drug trade. Those who profit from drugs are into torture, the government, and banking.They have all the resources necessary to stalk anyone they so desire and they have the most barbaric punishment system in the world.

[edit on 16-6-2009 by eradown]

Originally posted by eradown


You and the other poster have stumbled onto what the elites have planned for America. They are instituting the Mexican caste system in America.

You're probably right.
And it seems to be going that way faster than we would expect huh?
Weapons, oil, sex trade, and drugs controlled by a few.

It seems this group was involved in a few more crimes.

Another home invasion and a separate murder of another Hispanic man.

According to the Redding Record Searchlight newspaper, friends of Forde's biological mother, who lives in nearby Redding, were robbed at gunpoint by two men in U.S. Marshals uniforms who bound their wrists with cable ties and took a large amount of cash.

The couple said that Forde had cut the hair of one of the victims, a woman. They said Forde knew that the woman had just received an inheritance and was keeping the cash at home because she didn't trust the banks, the Record Searchlight reported.

Bush, who has ties to white-supremacist groups, was charged last week in Chelan County Superior Court with the 1997 killing of a Hispanic transient in Wenatchee. An informant told Wenatchee police that Bush had bragged about killing "a Mexican" behind a store, according to court documents. Prosecutors say he was linked to the death through DNA evidence.

[edit on 17-6-2009 by verylowfrequency]

reply to post by haika


How will the Mexican caste system differ from the one that we already have? The only difference that I can see is that the wealthy live in the middle of town and the poor on the outskirts, and rural areas in Mexico.

Originally posted by hypervigilant
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How will the Mexican caste system differ from the one that we already have? The only difference that I can see is that the wealthy live in the middle of town and the poor on the outskirts, and rural areas in Mexico.

Mexican culture frowns on lower class people looking the rich in the eye. Color and blood do count in Mexico. Blonds have more status than blacks. The Mexican cities and towns with a high proportion of Basque descendants (rh negative) are the most prosperous communities in the world.In Mexico, the deaf are not educated and it is acceptable discriminate against them. Poor people are not even allowed to eat in nice restaurants which cater to tourists even when they have the money to do so. Needless to say most Americans are not genetically or socially capable of adapting to such an environment.

Man, this kind of crap makes me so angry! Sure, I don't like drugdealing or thugs living in my neighbourhoods, but I don't go on a vigilante power-trip and break into their houses and shoot them. It's absolutely BS the kind of crap people in America think they can get away with just because we're born here.
There's an equal number of white gangsters in some parts of the US, and you don't see these vigilante groups going after them, just their black and hispanic counterparts. It's all race driven, and it infuriates me to no extent.

reply to post by Mdv2


Ok I agree that it was a sick thing and the little girl but of been terrified, I couldn't imagine the anxiety levels. I would have to say it is a financial motive, not ethnic hated. Drug dealers don't care how you look or anything for the matter, but if you screw them over financially they will kill you (The serious ones at least).

vigilante...heh...that term makes me laugh.

News and utube leave out the part about them being armed illegal alien drug dealers yet embellish the fact that shawna was in the Minutemen!
The Minutemen are not about breaking in and killing people, in fact they have made it crystal clear she acted On Her OWN.
This typical one sided news is geared to discredit the patriots of The Minutemen and NOT THE COPS who were NOT doing their job...
Anybody have a friend or family member strung out and seen horrible the results of that? Naccotic dalers are the scum of the earth.
Why in the world hadn't the 'authorities' arrested and deported these narcotic dealing Illegal aliens that had Weapons!!?????
If they had done their job and if the parents hadn't put their little girl at risk This COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED...
poor child Poor child
rotton @ss killer shawna gang deserve to be prossecuted to the fullest extent of the law. So does the mother of this child and the 'authorites' that were NOT doing their jobs..

Heck, whatever happened to just calling in a anonymous tip to the DEA? Or To Youth and family services stating they are under suspicion of narcotics sales and use? Then if the DEA or the division of youth and family services find nothing, then squash it. Or they could've even givenan anonymous tip To INS? all these things are legal and within the rights of American citizens. I beleive this was a hate crime, I think some illegal immigrants, and that may even be a small percentage are ruining this country, too, but I can't fathom doing something like this. It's just pure hatred. What an awful thing to do. I hope they put those two in the electric chair!

[edit on 3-7-2009 by ldyserenity]

This is exactly why vigilante groups shouldn't be allowed. Any old Yahoo can decide to join in. There's no control.

These sorts of actions should be done by collective decision and permission. I don't want any of these sorts acting for us without our having some say in who and what.

Originally posted by Jadette
This is exactly why vigilante groups shouldn't be allowed. Any old Yahoo can decide to join in. There's no control.

These sorts of actions should be done by collective decision and permission. I don't want any of these sorts acting for us without our having some say in who and what.

Yes, and the current collective is doing such a good job now huh? So it's OK for your "collective" to kill? What a sheeple...

Originally posted by Divinorumus

Originally posted by getreadyalready
... but that little girl in a drug house was doomed from the start by fault of her own parents!

I blame the drug war on the customers. Lets flip this around the other way. Porn is disgusting, yet this nation is filled with porn pushers. Would porn exist, if not for all the pervs out there?

I don't know what this guy was selling, if it's hard (actual) drugs as opposed to a god given plant (a.k.a. marijuana), then he got what he probably deserved. And his customers should have gotten the same!

I think it hypocritical to blame the push of drugs and not the customers that create that demand. There would be not war on drugs if not for the demand created by the junkies. I'd rather be known as a pusher than a junkie! Junkies are worse than pushers. Put the blame for this war on drugs where it belongs .. upon those that WANT drugs!

I agree with you there. But, how do you suppose that we stop the people from wanting the drugs, or being addicted to them? There's the conundrum. I have no idea how we would stop the demand, as far as education goes, America has been the DARE thing since the Early eighties, and still there are more juveniles growing up to be addicts. It's a vicious cycle. It's sad. I had a stepsister who died from heroine, I really didn't know she had a problem, and I wish there were something I could've done or said to intervene, sadly a lot of this people don't really want the help, that's part of the sickness. I really wish we lived in a perfect worl where there was no demand for illegal narcotics, but that's just wishful thinking. As it stands now the demand is very much higher than that of the supply, and given those numbers, it really is difficult to end the situation.

This typical one sided news is geared to discredit the patriots of The Minutemen and NOT THE COPS who were NOT doing their job...

Errr, every MSM story about this case I have read has pointed out that the Minutemen wanted nothing to do with her because they thought she was a violent nutburger, actually.

Just like the Michigan Militia pretty much told Timothy McVeigh to take a long walk of a short pier when he tried to join up with them.

I am not a supporter of either the militia types or the Minutemen, but they both have put a lot of effort into weeding out the loonies & white supremacist thug types, to their credit.

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Give me a break, 'sheeple' my butt. Just because I don't advocate letting every looney with a gun decide what is right and wrong, and what is legal and not.

You might think it's still the 'wild wild west', but people with any common sense understand that vigilantism isn't a safe and rational way to deal with anything.

[edit on 3-7-2009 by Jadette]

I know that this thread hasnt had any recent posts, but I just wanted to post the 911 call the mother had made. ..

BTW, wheres the proof that this family had any connection with drugs??


www.aztlan.net...

It was bad enough as a head line, but that audiological window into bedlam gives a real insight into the truth of this situation.
It doesnt matter if the family were illegal, a little girl , and her father were shot dead, and the mother/wife is now going to be in some hell of a mess for the rest of her life. I would guess shes not done jumping at shadows yet.
Regardless of the motives of such a thing, its wrong. Its just as wrong as bombing civilian populated targets to kill two taleban, and its just as wrong as gang members shooting it out in a bar... No good can come of it . None.

reply to post by Mdv2


I hope the jury practices jury nullification and lets these vigilantees go. This wouldn't happen if our govt would throw out the illegals but as usual the officials are taking bribes from businessmen to leave the illegals alone.