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Female vigilante 'led drugs raid on illegal immigrant home' where girl and father were shot dead

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posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 09:35 AM
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reply to post by whaaa
 


I have to agree with you, on that one, when the tax payer supporters of this nation keeps losing their American dream and unemployment, chaos and anger takes over the citizens they will do anything to protect what they believe is theirs.

Just look at the increasing rates of gun sales in the nation, here in my neck of the woods the gun stores are on back orders.

This are not sales of illegal arms but regular Americans arming themselves.

Who do you think they are to out to protect?




posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 10:11 AM
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I'm not making any judgements untill I see more details of what went on. Did they just get in there and start shooting defenceless drug dealers? OR What?? These people should have been home in their Own country, not in Mine Peddeling Drugs.. I'm so sorry about the poor child. I'm not yet sorry about one less drug dealer. WHY in the World would a father have his child in a probable drug house? Illegals seem to involve their kids a lot.
Shame on that father; I blame him And I blame whoever is in charge of basicly inviting ILLEGALS into our country.
There are two sides to this story and of course only one is in the article...



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 10:16 AM
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reply to post by AmericanDaughter
 


yes a break in to murder a man and his pre teen daughter


you support murder of children then do you?



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 10:31 AM
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I'm sure I said I am saddened about the child. Poor thing should have been at Home but Nooo her parents smuggeled her into a foreign country and were Dealing Narcotics! The parents put her at risk.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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My condolences go out to the family of the father and his daughter who were slain. I cannot imagine the pain the mother who survived is going through now.

Does anyone find it odd that two "right-wing" groups have had their names tarnished in the last week by vicious murders? First we have that white supremacist who murdered the security guard the the holocaust museum being tied the the 9/11 truth movement. Now we have three people being arrested for first degree murder who are tied to the Minuteman movement. I'm wondering what groups are next on the hit list.

That being said, if they did commit this most heinous act, I hope that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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I agree with you 100%, where is the outrage when this same gang bangers are in the streets of our nation killing Innocent Americans citizens and their children.

What a joke to defend somebody that was no only illegal but drug dealing as well.

Still killing a child is not excuse but don't we call that in time of war "collateral damage".



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:28 AM
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Do you then support illegals that are also drug dealers? just because they have children around doesn't made them any better just irresponsible parents that careless for the well being of their own children.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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There is a massive , yawning gulf between sitting idley around while crime is commited, and raiding a families dwelling, shooting a father and his daughter and attempting to murder the mother . Thats not investigation, thats not due process. Thats cold blooded nazi style lightning war. Now, it has to be said, theres a case for community solidarity , and even a local militia if things are so bad down there. But that organisation should be closely monitored , and trained to police or forces precision, in target assesment , proper investigation of crime, and in non lethal take downs. I wonder if they even found any drugs? I dont think it matters much . Even if there were drugs in the house, that still does not excuse murder.
On the other hand, if they had gone there and killed a bunch of cartel types, well... that would be different.
However I can see that hicks might have a problem taking a hard target. Spray and pray doesnt work when the other guy kills for a living.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno
It is up to each and every American to help secure our country from people who wish to live here illegally.

#$%@ that! A nation is merely a big gang turf and their citizens merely a bunch of gang bangers! It is because of this bigoted "get back where we think you belong" crap that I'm happy as hell America and other such nations are CRASHING! Screw all these gang banger nations, may they all crash and burn. I hope America ends up as poor as Mexico. It will be funny as hell to see big stupid hypocrites trying to sneak into Canada for a chance at a better life.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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In a time of war... you make me sick. Collateral damage only happens because the people who use the phrase are too lazy or impatient , or to lacking in honour to deal with a problem with the minimum nessacary force. An honourable person would rather die, than kill a child, or anyone without the means to defend themselves. In backing the actions of barbers and murderers, you yourself are proving you have no honour.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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I agree that it should not be vigilantes killing at will, but how about drug wars in which "innocents" get caught in the middle where is the outrage on that one, the drug cartel have not problem killing you, your wife and children when they think you are in their way.

Like I say before this seems like a bad deal gone wrong and the police was involved behind the vigilantes.

Who knows perhaps the vigilantes got greedy and wanted the drugs and money they were supposed to find for themselves and occurs witnesses were no allowed.

But hey that is how drug dealers work most of the time.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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I used to work with a construction company that had a lot of illegals. My buddy and I were teasing a young Mexican kid, and the others joined in and started calling him "Guatemalen." We didn't get it so we asked what that was supposed to mean. All the Mexicans spoke up and said it was an insult because Guatemalens are trash. They sneak across the border into Mexico and have kids and steal the jobs!!!!!!!!!



My buddy and I were speechless! How do you respond to that to a truck load of illegal Mexicans?



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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Sure, brush your teeth after you gag on your own koolaid while wearing rose colored glasses, after all learn the realities of life and we as a nation come a long way when it comes to brutality and the death of Innocent.

See I don't feel sick at all just amused by your reaction life can be very dirty and sick for those that chose to live dirty and sick and for those that are killed due to the self righteousness of others nation power like ours.

Get over it, this the life we are living in modern times, we face the dirt in our nation and the one we bring to other nations as well.




posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:46 AM
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Does anyone find it odd that two "right-wing" groups have had their names tarnished in the last week by vicious murders?


No, this is exactly the kind of behavior I expect to see from these clowns.

I expect to see a lot more and worse violence too, you can already see them in here making excuses for people who executed a nine year old child.

Don't ever doubt for a second that many of these people are capable of killing anyone they see as their "enemy"... they are our own homegrown Taliban.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:46 AM
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Well all i can say is she deserves what she get's i mean who does she think she is ?

She come's up with crap like this below.

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I laughed when I was told to watch out for the Chola's in the Bar ( I snickered to myself because I would be the one white woman that has no fear and it would be their first mistake the heat alone and due to who I am)

END QUOTE

Notice how she make's a point of using a capital i when ever she insert's herself into the sentence ?

She did it five time's and that was just one paragraph.

Very delusional women indeed.

There is a little thing called Karma and she just blew a fat turd right in it's face.

Shawna your one more nutjob we dont ever need to hear about again.

Child killer's make me sick and im very angry about this.

Take care.

Regards
Lee



[edit on 15-6-2009 by h3akalee]



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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So , what you are saying is that because a bunch of amoral chemical heads from mexico wish to conduct themselves in this manner, that makes it OK for a citizen of your nation to conduct themselves in a similar manner? Effectively you are saying, that although you value your nationality , you would have your countrymen behave like the savages you so despise in order to send them home?
On another of your points... there IS massive outrage about the gang banging going on in your nation. Its not under the rug, and its not old news. The only reason nothing gets done about it , is because your nations army is too damned busy messing with other peoples affairs in foreign lands, to stick a boot in where its needed, or shore up the frankly pathetic arrangements on the border. Remember, its not the fault of mexican drug cartels that the border is so weak. Thats directly the fault of the Security Services in your nation, who are fully aware of the situation , but dont give to tugs of a deceased canines phallus what happens as a result. If you have angst about the lack of security there, if others are angry enough to militate against the situation, then why dont you do the democraticaly acceptable thing, and get your government to do something about it , instead of supporting murder and mayhem , and ultimately escalating an already blood soaked, and foul situation??



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
They sneak across the border into Mexico and have kids and steal the jobs!!!!!!!!!

1) A job is NOT a right, it is a privledge that ONE person creates and offers to ANOTHER person ,,, of their CHOICE! 2) I am color and nationality blind, I am not a bigot citizen of any gang other than the entire HUMAN race. 3) There is no such thing as an illegal humon, just creepy bigoted ones! I DO NOT respect any GANGS turf borders! The entire planet belongs to us ALL!!! 4) Ya'll need a ONE World Order shoved down all your throats!

For shame. We're all humans, just trying to live the best we can wherever we can on this planet. I know the bigots "don't get it" but maybe that's why America needs to become as dirt poor as Mexico .. then maybe one day they'll understand that we are ALL part of humanity. I will be laughing my butt off the day Americans find it necessary to sneak into Canada (or Mexico, HAR!) in search of a better life! Yeah, I'll be laughing laughing laughing.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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Before I give away to your misguided opinion I suggest your read what I have posted so far in this board, then after you clear you mind from the self inflicted outrage then we can have some serious debate as how bad The US has become.

Plain and simple, right now you are mixing facts with fiction and personal opinions.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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You may have missed the irony!


In response to your tirade about Americans having to sneak across into Canada. It seems everyone sneaks North for somereason!

The illegal Mexicans in America were complaining about the illegal Guatamalens in Mexico, and .......ahhhhhh nevermind!


There are plenty of "illegal" humans. The lady who killed this little girl may be one of them, and she will get what she deserves, but her mission was a solid one!

We all need to be more proactive in policing our neighborhoods, and yes collateral damage is tragic, but that little girl in a drug house was doomed from the start by fault of her own parents! At least this way, she may have served to protect others like herself, and like the victims of drug violence her father was propagating!



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
... but that little girl in a drug house was doomed from the start by fault of her own parents!

I blame the drug war on the customers. Lets flip this around the other way. Porn is disgusting, yet this nation is filled with porn pushers. Would porn exist, if not for all the pervs out there?

I don't know what this guy was selling, if it's hard (actual) drugs as opposed to a god given plant (a.k.a. marijuana), then he got what he probably deserved. And his customers should have gotten the same!

I think it hypocritical to blame the push of drugs and not the customers that create that demand. There would be not war on drugs if not for the demand created by the junkies. I'd rather be known as a pusher than a junkie! Junkies are worse than pushers. Put the blame for this war on drugs where it belongs .. upon those that WANT drugs!



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