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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:00 AM by Jacob08
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Originally posted by theblunttruth
How about this for irony; people opposed to the "thuggish" BNP managed to shout death threats at Nick Griffin last night and vandalised his vehicle,
smashing windows and what not. Point made i think.
Haha I do always enjoy a good bit of irony. The success of BNP is due to the failure of the established parties and the low voter turnout also
suggests this is the case. Another factor is the increasing insanity of the left leaning politicans and media. Much like violence leads to more
violence, extremism leads to more extremism. If it wasn't for communism the facists would not have gained power last century. Not saying Labor is
communist or BNP is facist but I do believe that fires don't burn without oxygen.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:01 AM by blueorder
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Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
It was not so,
Outside the South, Obama did best among nonblacks in counties with more blacks. Inside the South, he did best among nonblacks in counties with
fewer blacks. This has got to be an urban-rural thing as much as anything else
Source: www.guardian.co.uk...
eh, that does not mention black voting stats/figures- it specifically mentions non blacks 
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:05 AM by Tallsorts
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Originally posted by fatdad
i think its great that the boot was put into labour and the rest of the politically correct fanboys... its about time Britain thought about putting
Britain first and its national people first and all this EU bull# second to last... well done to all those people who had the balls to vote for
Britain 
That's a good start, then we can put the boot in for 'Illuminati Dave' of the Conservatives, and friend of the Rothschild's, as well as all the
other people who richly deserve to be removed from Planet Earth, so we don't have to smell rotting fish any more!!!
Until they've gone, you get an Illuminati chosen candidate, whoever you vote into government.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:10 AM by blueorder
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Originally posted by Tallsorts
That's a good start, then we can put the boot in for 'Illuminati Dave' of the Conservatives, and friend of the Rothschild's, as well as all the
other people who richly deserve to be removed from Planet Earth, so we don't have to smell rotting fish any more!!!
Until they've gone, you get an Illuminati chosen candidate, whoever you vote into government.
I don't know about the "illuminati" but on a general point there will be no real difference between "DAVE" and New Labour
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:20 AM by Tallsorts
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Originally posted by Freeborn
There is inherent corruption in the EU and we should seek closer ties with our steadfast allies in the Commonwealth, those that have stood by us
through thick and thin.
And of course (A note to our overseas critics), our Commonwealth family are from an extremely wide range of colours, and religions. Many of their
family members came to Britain during World War 2 to fight to save us from Nazi Germany and preserve our freedom of speech.
Until the major political parties address these issues then we will see an increase in support for BNP and even UKIP. We are sick of the PC
spin and rhetoric of the champagne socialists and Tory party.
I'm sick of Politicians as a group, and we need people to represent us who will look after the interests of 'The British' of all creeds and
colours, and not just line their own pockets.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:31 AM by Taikonaut
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Here's a question for you all..
A scottish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly scottish
A welsh nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly welsh
An irish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly irish
but..
An english nationalist is portrayed as being racist
why?
edit to add:
Personally I'd like to see the liberal left taken out of the Green Party, and a new brand of british nationalism combined with hard-line
environmentalism
'Enviro-nationalism'
[edit on 8-6-2009 by Taikonaut]
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:32 AM by Next_Heap_With
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Originally posted by Taikonaut
Here's a question for you all..
A scottish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly scottish
A welsh nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly welsh
An irish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly irish
but..
An english nationalist is portrayed as being racist
why?
they did not want to support the England national football team because they had black player...
not enough for you? does the phrase "keep england white" means something to you?
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:37 AM by The Last Man on Earth
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Originally posted by Next_Heap_With
Originally posted by Taikonaut
Here's a question for you all..
A scottish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly scottish
A welsh nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly welsh
An irish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly irish
but..
An english nationalist is portrayed as being racist
why?
they did not want to support the England national football team because they had black player...
not enough for you? does the phrase "keep england white" means something to you?
Are you incapable of separating those who care about England and the English and those who are genuinely racist? To even declare yourself a proud
Englishman means you are assumed to hate black people.
I don't see why, after all, it was the Americans who made racism an institution and they are rebel scum. Britain was the one who outlawed slavery,
for crying out loud, why should we be apologising for then being white English?
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:37 AM by blueorder
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Originally posted by Next_Heap_With
Originally posted by Taikonaut
Here's a question for you all..
A scottish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly scottish
A welsh nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly welsh
An irish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly irish
but..
An english nationalist is portrayed as being racist
why?
they did not want to support the England national football team because they had black player...
not enough for you? does the phrase "keep england white" means something to you?
I do not consider the BNP any MORE or LESS racist than the Black Police Association, wonder when the "anti fa" thugs will picket them
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:37 AM by franspeakfree
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Originally posted by Taikonaut
Here's a question for you all..
A scottish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly scottish
A welsh nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly welsh
An irish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly irish
but..
An english nationalist is portrayed as being racist
why?
Er probably because to discriminate over colour is racist and does not belong in the era in which we live. We are all equal no matter what colour we
are. Anyone who thinks differerently I pity the fool.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:38 AM by THELONIO
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:44 AM by shai hulud
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A shameful day for Britain? America elects a racist communist and everyone has an orgasm, but when British people VOTE for a BRITISH Nationalist Party
it is all of a sudden shameful. Their COUNTRY, their VOTE. A lot of people hate the Marxist state America is in and Britain has been living that way
for decades. Maybe they want change they can really believe in. Oh yeah, voting for your country or even race is racist, if you are white. That is
when it only applies.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:45 AM by Tallsorts
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Originally posted by Maya00a
OK - I get what you're saying about other EU nationals moving to Britain, taking jobs, school places, houses, etc, etc.
However, I'm British but moved to another EU country 5 years ago - Spain. There's a lot (1000's) of ex-pats here in Spain and a lot of other
European nationals too.
If Britain ever pulled out of the EU and then the other EU countries decide us Brits have to 'go home', do you realise the burden that would put on
the British tax payer? We'd all need new jobs, houses, GOOD school places for our kids and use of the NHS.
If that happens, you could become Spanish Nationals and continue to enjoy living in that country. I have relatives who emigrated to Australia and
liked it so much that they became Australian nationals.
It's not the 'foreigners' that are wrong with Britain! There's a reason why so many of us Brits have left and it's not because of all the
foreigners. We left for a better quality of life - something that Britain couldn't, and still can't offer. Life as a foreigner is difficult and
the Spanish tend to have much the same views about us, as many Brits do about all the EU nationals living in Britain. There's many, many Spanish
that would love us to be 'sent home'. Not all of them have that view and I can honestly say that, on the whole, life here is still much better than
our lives were in England. We've often toyed with moving back but a visit to England usually reminds us of what we left behind and then we come back
to Spain grateful that we can stay here.
There's a lot of us that wouldn't be happy if we were forced to return to Britain because the EU country we call home, sends us packing. I'm just
curious if anyone has actually thought what a burden 1000's of returning Brits would be? Some of us would be leaving businesses, homes that we've
got mortgages on that are probably in negative equity due to the global recession.
You know if my family moved back to Britain we can't get any form of temporary help from the British system - my husband and I paid tax and national
insurance for 20 years before we left. However, we aren't eligible for any help at all. No benefits - income or housing, because we haven't paid
national insurance for 5 years (we pay Spanish social security and taxes). That would have to change if we were forced to move back and it would be
at great expense to the UK tax payer!:
The chances of the European Union lasting for any length of time are remote, because the intenal strains will break it. Britain (ie the Taxpayer) pays
£280,000,000 Per Week for the 'priviledge' of belonging to the Brussels' Gravy Train. Yes, gravy for a few, while the ordinary population gets
poorer by the hour.
It's only a matter of time as to when we say, 'Up with this we will not put any more.', and the whole fancy project gets consigned to the
'Dust-Bin of Modern British History.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:48 AM by Taikonaut
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Originally posted by franspeakfree
Originally posted by Taikonaut
Here's a question for you all..
A scottish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly scottish
A welsh nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly welsh
An irish nationalist is portrayed as just being proudly irish
but..
An english nationalist is portrayed as being racist
why?
Er probably because to discriminate over colour is racist and does not belong in the era in which we live. We are all equal no matter what colour we
are. Anyone who thinks differerently I pity the fool.
Where in my post do I mention anything about discrimination?
Do you label welsh/scottish/irish national parties as being racist just the same? I bet not.
The anti-BNP sentiment is just a media-spun sop to give the public a common pariah to point fingers and hurl abuse at as a distraction to the ills and
problems of the economy and society
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:50 AM by mattpryor
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Originally posted by Taikonaut
The anti-BNP sentiment is just a media-spun sop to give the public a common pariah to point fingers and hurl abuse at as a distraction to the ills and
problems of the economy and society
As opposed to the BNP's central message, which is to give the public a common pariah (Muslims) to point fingers and hurl abuse at as a distraction to
the ills and problems of economy and society...?
See what I did there? 
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:50 AM by blueorder
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Originally posted by shai hulud
A shameful day for Britain? America elects a racist communist and everyone has an orgasm, but when British people VOTE for a BRITISH Nationalist Party
it is all of a sudden shameful. Their COUNTRY, their VOTE. A lot of people hate the Marxist state America is in and Britain has been living that way
for decades. Maybe they want change they can really believe in. Oh yeah, voting for your country or even race is racist, if you are white. That is
when it only applies.
hah good point, did Mr Griffin attend a racist church like Obama?
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:51 AM by THELONIO
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what is so bad about racism anyway?, there is positive racism and negative racism, but it is all racism. is it fair to let a black man or woman or
person of colour or ethnic minority, sikh, hindu, muslim or anyone have the job over a white english person because the company need to have more
ethnics employed?,or deny a job because the applicant is black?, i do not hate people of any colour, i hate the laws and politicians for letting it
happen,
racism exists in every society across the globe, it is a fact of life that will never go away, we need to learn to live with it rather than to abolish
it
black people have adopted the british way of life very well i think, and have stamped their mark well in england, they have their communities but
understand what it is to be essentialy english, i have many friends of colour
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:52 AM by blueorder
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Originally posted by mattpryor
As opposed to the BNP's central message, which is to give the public a common pariah (Muslims) to point fingers and hurl abuse at as a distraction to
the ills and problems of economy and society...?
See what I did there?
I see what you did, but there is so much more to hurl abuse at, as the BNP rightly do
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:53 AM by Taikonaut
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Originally posted by Next_Heap_With
they did not want to support the England national football team because they had black player...
not enough for you? does the phrase "keep england white" means something to you?
I find the 'keep britain white' a most disgusting slogan.
Just to point out that you CAN be proud of your nation's culture history and heritage WITHOUT being a racist
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:56 AM by NotAgain
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reply to post by StevenDye
The sad thing is, much of what the BNP says, is felt by much of the country... Heck I listened to their leader speaking yesterday, and he
isincredibly convincing with his words.
He is convincing because he is speaking for much of the country, I for one think Britain has been too lenient on controlling our borders. This
country is overcrowded and I see nothing wrong shedding the load of people in this country. This is not about sending people home who don’t belong
here; I have many friends from all walks of life. If I were to choose who were to leave this country I would choose the Lazy British White people who
can’t get off their backside to work because they are too out there face on drugs and booze, however would it be fair to other countries if we just
shipped those people to destroy their country. NO it wouldn’t, it would be the same politically correct argument we have now.
What we need is somebody with balls to stand above this politically correct mumbo jumbo and get us out of the EU. As long as we are in the EU we get
less and less of a say in what we want and when we want it. It’s time for Britain to become independent and have stricter controls over our
boarders, if I have to vote BNP or UKIP so Britain achieves that “I will” and if that makes me a racist “I must be a racist”
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