Shame For Britain As BNP Win European Parliament Seats , page 5
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 07:23 AM by Horus12
reply to post by sunny_2008ny



Mass imigration caused a major loss of jobs and wages long before the economical crash. The polish, latvians, lithuanians etc were making money in the UK and sending it home. That in no way helps the british economy.

The construction trade wages were halfed by being undercut by imigrants in the UK, who would work for next to nothing, the quality of their work being terrible in most cases.

Japan, China and many other countries are big on preserving their heritage, yet if the british do it, its considered racist. Britain throughout history has been a white country, thats not racist its a fact. While I welcome other nationalities, I see no harm in preserving our heritage and being proud of it.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 07:27 AM by Freeborn
I really couldn't give a toss about a person's colour or race, people are people plain and simple.

But what I really do object to is immigrants coming into my country, taking advantage of the system and society we have developed over centuries, exploiting every little loophole and then having the nerve to tell me my country is # and evil and that they intend to turn my country into a mirror image of the #hole they came from in the first place.

Of course I'm not against immigrants coming into my country and working hard and contributing to society.

Britain has a long and proud history of accepting political and religous refugees and various minorities.
These people have successfully integrated into British society and have helped Britain grow and develop, but not at the expense of our own culture and heritage.
It is a gradual and natural thing.

But I will not stand idly by and watch the Islamification of my country.
If that upsets people's sensibilities well, tough.
Sikh's, Chinese, Blacks either integrate fully or are content to work hard, keep themselves to themselves but abide by the laws of this country.
They have enhanced British society.
Islam does not.

The influx of Eastern European immigrants has led to an increase in crime.
50% of Britains most wanted are from former Eastern European countries including Poland, Albania, Georgia and Lithuania.

There is inherent corruption in the EU and we should seek closer ties with our steadfast allies in the Commonwealth, those that have stood by us through thick and thin.

Until the major political parties address these issues then we will see an increase in support for BNP and even UKIP.

We are sick of the PC spin and rhetoric of the champagne socialists and Tory party.

This country needs urgent action or it will be beyond redemption.



reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 07:29 AM by sunny_2008ny
reply to post by felonius



The flat refusal of other ethnic groups to assimiliate is repugnant at best and criminal at worst.


The other ethnic groups do not 'assimilate' into the American society. Can you be more specific?


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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 08:14 AM by spines
reply to post by StevenDye



Oh man, you should read a book by Sinclair Lewis called "It Can't Happen Here".

It is an attitude like the one you exhibit which allows destructive and negative forces to grab the wheel and drive a nation into a hole of their liking.

While only following the election process in Britain when I can catch BBC and have some free time to browse around the net, I have seen the BNP to be, especially in their message and voice, a terrible idea wrapped in pretty gold paper.

It is unfortunate that most people attempting to gain power under the guise of citizens justice and bettering a crappy situation feel the need to trend towards fasicm.

In my personal opinion, the first thing any power-hungry group will do is to find a minority group large enough to convince a scared populace of said minoritys faults. They must aslo be small enough to easily control, persecute and seperate without much effort, should the time come (which it always does if those grabbing for this power manage to get it)..

There are other things about the BNP that irk me, but this is one big huge flashing neon sign saying: Don't be stupid and fall for this...like scared, confused populations have done time and time again.

Man, that was rambling. Feel free to delete if I took this way to far off the rails.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 08:17 AM by Maya00a
OK - I get what you're saying about other EU nationals moving to Britain, taking jobs, school places, houses, etc, etc.

However, I'm British but moved to another EU country 5 years ago - Spain. There's a lot (1000's) of ex-pats here in Spain and a lot of other European nationals too.

If Britain ever pulled out of the EU and then the other EU countries decide us Brits have to 'go home', do you realise the burden that would put on the British tax payer? We'd all need new jobs, houses, GOOD school places for our kids and use of the NHS.

My 2nd point refers to the comment about foreign workers taking British jobs and not doing them as well as a British person. My father has a building company (in England) and last year he couldn't hire any carpenters locally - loads of unskilled labourers but no skilled tradesman available. Anyway, he turned to a local temp agency and the only skilled carpenters they could offer him lived 70 miles away and were Polish. He hired them through the temp agency and left the ad for permenant positions running. As of today, he still can't find time served, skilled carpenters. Those 2 Polish men drove 140 miles round trip, each day. They arrived on time and they worked hard. The whole job would've come to a standstill without them, my dad probably would've lost his business and he'd have had to lay off all his other workers. Was he wrong in hiring those Polish men?

You do also realise that just as my family left Britain, so have many other families that are skilled tradesman, accountants, doctors, nurses - all fields! Not all EU foreigners just take on building work - they also work in highly qualified fields such as lawyers, doctors, etc. If the borders were closed to them then who would fill those positions?

I hear from friends, all the time, about how their doctors are all foreign - do you think they're taking jobs from British doctors? Do you hear of many British doctors not finding work because all their jobs have been taken by foreigners? Nope! That's because many of them leave to live in other countries where they get better pay, better hours, better quality of life.

It's not the 'foreigners' that are wrong with Britain! There's a reason why so many of us Brits have left and it's not because of all the foreigners. We left for a better quality of life - something that Britain couldn't, and still can't offer. Life as a foreigner is difficult and the Spanish tend to have much the same views about us, as many Brits do about all the EU nationals living in Britain. There's many, many Spanish that would love us to be 'sent home'. Not all of them have that view and I can honestly say that, on the whole, life here is still much better than our lives were in England. We've often toyed with moving back but a visit to England usually reminds us of what we left behind and then we come back to Spain grateful that we can stay here.

There's a lot of us that wouldn't be happy if we were forced to return to Britain because the EU country we call home, sends us packing. I'm just curious if anyone has actually thought what a burden 1000's of returning Brits would be? Some of us would be leaving businesses, homes that we've got mortgages on that are probably in negative equity due to the global recession.

You know if my family moved back to Britain we can't get any form of temporary help from the British system - my husband and I paid tax and national insurance for 20 years before we left. However, we aren't eligible for any help at all. No benefits - income or housing, because we haven't paid national insurance for 5 years (we pay Spanish social security and taxes). That would have to change if we were forced to move back and it would be at great expense to the UK tax payer!

I do wonder though how other people from EU countries just turn up in Britain and actually manage to get housed and get benefit money paid? Do they really or is that just media spin? If they really do get all that free stuff and all that help then I don't understand how my British family can't come back and get the same? (not that we want to!)

Bottom line - I'm a human being regardless of my sex, age, race, religion, etc.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 08:26 AM by Laurauk
reply to post by spines



Then you assume wrong, I can blatantly see it is people like you who are trying to derail the peace process in Ireland, anyone who is fooling themselves is you. Not every single person in the UK are racists. Your assumption is pure ignorance at it worst.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 08:27 AM by merkava
Originally posted by Freeborn
But what I really do object to is immigrants coming into my country, taking advantage of the system and society we have developed over centuries, exploiting every little loophole and then having the nerve to tell me my country is # and evil and that they intend to turn my country into a mirror image of the #hole they came from in the first place.


I am with you on this one being a British pakistani muslim myself.Those people that you mentioned are being erdicated from our communities as its effecting our majority aswel.I personally believe those who are extremists/fundementalists and want to implement their ideas in UK should try the idea out back in their homeland first.You don't bite the hand that feeds you and those who do bite should be deported instantly.Indeed when i do visit my homeland time-to-time and see the tough life there, i really appreciate and be thankful to the country that provides me and my family all the facillities.I might not agree with a few British policies but i don't go around protesting against troops coming back home or hurting anyone.


But I will not stand idly by and watch the Islamification of my country.


Do you really think Britain will get islamified? Seriously, propaganda aside!


Sikh's, Chinese, Blacks either integrate fully or are content to work hard, keep themselves to themselves but abide by the laws of this country.They have enhanced British society.Islam does not.


So why did you minus muslims outa your list? Sikhs and hindus also follow their religion as strictly as muslims do.Sikhs and hindus have also built huge gurdwaras and temples as muslims build their mosques.Each of them including chinese have also formed their own communities.Muslims have worked hard and contributed and the younger generations are mostly very educated.You can't single out muslims and start moaning over things which they are not responsible for.Recession and job loss weren't caused by muslims.


Until the major political parties address these issues then we will see an increase in support for BNP and even UKIP.


UKIP YES BNP NO! BNP have started to increase their moderate tone but if they get in power they will show their true colours isolating britain making this recession look like a pea.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 08:48 AM by Cauch1
I fail to see why Britain should be ashamed because of the BNP gains. It has been obvious that such gains have been coming for a long time and right now I don't see how it is a bad thing.

I do not agree with their more extreme (racist) policies but I do believe that a bit more nationalism and independence will do the country good. Labour has been running the country into the ground for over a decade now and I am not surprised that the people have lost faith in the centre parties. The EU is weakening and harming the country. The BNP along with other parties want less EU control. I mean really didn't the centre parties see it coming. Their continued dedication to the EU was harming their image. The people want change. So they have voted for change.

The people out there who say that this makes British people racist need to wake up. The majority of people who have voted for the BNP will be non-racist people who are tired of the bull# they have been fed by the media and centre parties. I was reading the times the other day, the supposedly neutral newspaper, the only two articles I read that were linked to politics spent their whole time telling the reader that all the fringe parties were wrong, directly and indirectly. Personally I think that right now the best party for the UK is UKIP as they are the only party that is really interested in the country and nothing else.

I do not believe that the UK should be ashamed that the BNP have gained power. Rather they should be proud that they have finally gotten the spine to ignore the people and the media shouting "racist" and actually vote for the party they want rather than who they are told to vote for. There is no reason for them to be ashamed and you shouldn't be telling them that they should be.

And to you estar last I heard the BNP had a black man on their chief council. Though I agree with you it would be better to vote UKIP, right now BNP is better than Labour.

-Cauch1
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