Shame For Britain As BNP Win European Parliament Seats

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posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:34 AM
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i think it is important for the bnp to clarify their stance on race supremecy, the reason that they get their votes is because their policies are what the majority of english people want, i could never bring myself to vote for them as i am not a racist, however, i do not ignore the natural traits of other nationalities to make myself feel better about myself, there is an old saying "just because they are a minority, doesn't mean they're not arseholes", please excuse the bad language but that is the way the saying goes. the bnp has a lot of racism in their ranks which is a shame because they are proud of their country, but the race hate makes national pride seem dirty




posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by Krpano
Seriously, those who still think that skin color, religion, or any other type of culture makes any difference is a piece of # as human.

Life is not about that, its about human enlightment and social development.

Those who believe they are superior just because they belong to some special group should get the Darwin Award.

Sry, but this subject piss me off.


I agree that life isn't about the human races differences, BUT a polish immigrant coming over here and either working under the radar for cash in hand, or working and sending money back to Poland (it not being put back into OUR country) isn't enlightenment or social development.

That's what people are discussing, i think fair enough if people come to the country with a degree or something to give us, but otherwise no.

I wouldn't expect to be able to move to America without a career or something to offer, why should the UK be any different?



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:37 AM
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Just because the BNP has "Nationalist" in its name doesnt make it a racist party, thats like saying the Scottish Nationalist Party also supports Neo-Nazi ideaologies. All the BNP wants to do is take back Britain back to the people who were born here instead of giving the benefits to asylum seekers/terrorists etc who have no right being in this country illegally.
When British people are treated like scum as others from foreign lands are living in 4 bedroom homes you know theres something gone wrong with this system were in.
Some people in the party may hold some distasteful views, but what party doesnt have members that doesnt? Im sure Labour or the Lib Dems have some pretty savoury characters out there that arent being flashed in the papers the same way as the BNP members because of the simple fact there not Nationalists and actually proud of the country they live in.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by THELONIO
i think it is important for the bnp to clarify their stance on race supremecy, the reason that they get their votes is because their policies are what the majority of english people want, i could never bring myself to vote for them as i am not a racist, however, i do not ignore the natural traits of other nationalities to make myself feel better about myself, there is an old saying "just because they are a minority, doesn't mean they're not arseholes", please excuse the bad language but that is the way the saying goes. the bnp has a lot of racism in their ranks which is a shame because they are proud of their country, but the race hate makes national pride seem dirty


I think undoutedly the racial element of the party loses a lot of votes currently, and many would go to the UKIP, for example.

Put it this way, I daresay if you asked people about specific BNP policies, without naming the party, most people would agree with most of them.

Ironic when you see the antics of the "protestors" at Manchester, and people call the BNP thugs and "fascists"- those "protestors" are using fascist tactics



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by Krpano
Seriously, those who still think that skin color, religion, or any other type of culture makes any difference is a piece of # as human.

Life is not about that, its about human enlightment and social development.

Those who believe they are superior just because they belong to some special group should get the Darwin Award.

Sry, but this subject piss me off.



I would urge you to start picketing this group post haste!


www.nbpa.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:45 AM
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Its a shame harlequin that you don't really know anything about the average non-voter.
I find it hilarious that you would imply that if you don't vote you can't have an opinion, by your logic if you have never been in a building that gets hit by 2 planes then you can't talk about 9/11.
Go back to russia with your misguided logic.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:51 AM
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yes, but why did you denote a cool smiley when referencing an area that was not "British white"- why would it matter if it was "British white people"?


Living in the area was cool !



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
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yes, but why did you denote a cool smiley when referencing an area that was not "British white"- why would it matter if it was "British white people"?


Living in the area was cool !


not specifically because it was not mainly "british white people" then



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:56 AM
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A "national identity" is a perception, and it only exists in the mind of the observer. Everyone is different, even in this little country, and there are so many complicated cultural layers that intermingle with each other to make it impossible to establish a British "identity".

For example, I don't identify with Jade Goody, Heat Magazine, Big Brother, The Sun, bingo, Lilly Allen, Britain's Got Talent, etc. Those things seem quite typically British to a lot (maybe the majority) of Brits - does that make me un-British?



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:58 AM
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In the UK, there are more political parties than you can shake a stick at, and many people are so sick of the corruptness of our politicians, that they use their free-will choice and vote for a minority party. Whether this is a 'protest vote' I don't know. Sooner or later a BNP candidate was bound to get elected, as they happened to put up a candidate at the right time, when people are so fed-up with how we are being governed in Britain.

The fact that we have minority party choices in Britain allows people to express disatisfaction at the Ballot Box, rather than by riots or armed incidents which take place in other countries. Oh how I miss not having an 'Official Monster Raving Looney Party' candidate in my constituency this time, as they are surely the best ever choice for protesting voters in Britain, reflecting as they do, that eccentricity of British life which makes it still worth living here.

These are classic quotes from their website:

" I have come to change the government, not to praise it."
"There is nothing more monstrous than politicians". Screaming Lord Sutch
"If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you " R.U.Seerius

The link:

www.omrlp.com...

If you don't live in Britain, don't judge us by the fact that a BNP Candidate has been elected, judge us on the basis that we have a great variety of choices available, and people are free to vote for whom they like, even though you don't approve of their choice. Perhaps it's a bit too grown-up for your liking.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by mattpryor
A "national identity" is a perception, and it only exists in the mind of the observer. Everyone is different, even in this little country, and there are so many complicated cultural layers that intermingle with each other to make it impossible to establish a British "identity".

For example, I don't identify with Jade Goody, Heat Magazine, Big Brother, The Sun, bingo, Lilly Allen, Britain's Got Talent, etc. Those things seem quite typically British to a lot (maybe the majority) of Brits - does that make me un-British?


I wouldn't say those things are British at all. They are just British Media things.

[edit on 8-6-2009 by Lister87]



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:00 AM
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not specifically because it was not mainly "british white people" then


No, not because of that



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:01 AM
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Why is it a shame dont get it ?

I did not vote for them but a lot of voter's did that's what it's all about right ?

Like or lump it.

If you feel shame for britain simply due to the fact that the BNP got a few seat's in the Eu you need to unplug and take a walk.

Take care.

Regards
Lee



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by h3akalee

If you feel shame for britain simply due to the fact that the BNP got a few seat's in the Eu you need to unplug and take a walk.



Exactly, surely America should feel shame for "voting" in bush?



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder
not specifically because it was not mainly "british white people" then


Explain to me and others why did blacks vote for obama?

Whats the difference?

There is always this racism thing where only whites are racist. What about white peoples rights, lol.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:07 AM
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Explain to me and others why did blacks vote for obama?


Blacks voted for McCain too. The voters in US vote for the party and not the race. Blacks had 'sympathy' for Obama and he got some votes for that, but blacks and others voted for Republicans too


[edit on 8-6-2009 by sunny_2008ny]



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033

Explain to me and others why did blacks vote for obama?

Whats the difference?

There is always this racism thing where only whites are racist. What about white peoples rights, lol.




now, now come on Andy, all the enlightened people know only whites can be racist, there is nothing racist about that view at all.....................hang on a sec


[edit on 8-6-2009 by blueorder]



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
Blacks voted for McCain too. The voters in US vote for the party and not the race. Blacks had 'sympathy' for Obama and he got some votes for that, but blacks and others voted for Republicans too
[edit on 8-6-2009 by sunny_2008ny]



I think it was 90%+ blacks voting for the black candidate wasn't it- combination of race and democrat identity politics at play there

Despicable as it happens



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:15 AM
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i think its great that the boot was put into labour and the rest of the politically correct fanboys... its about time Britain thought about putting Britain first and its national people first and all this EU bull# second to last... well done to all those people who had the balls to vote for Britain



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 07:21 AM
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I think it was 90%+ blacks voting for the black candidate wasn't it- combination of race and democrat identity politics at play there


It was not so,


Outside the South, Obama did best among nonblacks in counties with more blacks. Inside the South, he did best among nonblacks in counties with fewer blacks. This has got to be an urban-rural thing as much as anything else


Source: www.guardian.co.uk...





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