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How Is This Not Upsetting Blacks? New Song Produced Called "Whip It Like A Slave"


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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:18 PM by GeechQuestInfo


baseball101

"how does a white person saying, "nappy headed hoe's" (i know what they are by the way) compare to a white person saying, "whipping something like a slave?""

Your not serious are you?
Your just playing a game with people right?
I'm sorry dude some people get it and some people don't and you my friend don't.

Now I hope I'm wrong and I hope your really just playing games



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:27 PM by baseball101


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haha i guess we'll never know, i just posted this here for some responses and i got them.

i actually enjoy the song, and love listening to rap. i get what you're saying, and will thus stop discussing it with you because it's pointless we've both said what we've needed to towards the OP.

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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:32 PM by Rocketgirl


Not every black person listens to hip hop. So that's why it's not upsetting too many people.

Stereotype!!!



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:35 PM by baseball101


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i wasn't trying to be stereotypical, or hurt anyone's feelings; i was just trying to make a point.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:36 PM by Lazyninja


Baseball101, this song was given an offensive name because controversy sells songs in place of actual talent.

That's about it. And this thread is a sign that it's worked so far.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:36 PM by mostlyspoons


Rap sucks anyway

theres no musical value at all. Period. It is a tool of the music industry for controlling black youth, and serves to perpetuate racial divides.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:36 PM by Diplomat


Originally posted by Rocketgirl
Not every black person listens to hip hop. So that's why it's not upsetting too many people.

Stereotype!!!


You wouldn't necessarily have to listen to hip hop to hear about the title of this song. You could read about it somewhere, like here.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:38 PM by Diplomat


Originally posted by mostlyspoons
Rap sucks anyway

theres no musical value at all. Period. It is a tool of the music industry for controlling black youth, and serves to perpetuate racial divides.


That's just an ignorant statement is all that is. Define music. What is "music?" It is simply putting sounds together with rhythm, which is exactly what rap does. I think maybe you just don't like the "content" of which most rap artists choose to rap about.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:39 PM by Rocketgirl


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Well I would have never heard about the song title if it wasn't posted on ATS. I don't hang out with people who listen to hip hop.

So that's not really true.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:41 PM by Rocketgirl


Originally posted by mostlyspoons
Rap sucks anyway

theres no musical value at all. Period. It is a tool of the music industry for controlling black youth, and serves to perpetuate racial divides.



Exaclty, I don't see why people can't listen to classical music or another kind of music that doesn't talk bad about people.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:46 PM by bigfatfurrytexan


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It isn't like black people have a lock on slavery. They were a chapter in a long, long book on slavery in humanity's history. Sure, it is a national shame that the US has in its past, but they are by far not the only slaves to ever exist. Further, i am not sure that any black people currently in the US were ever slaves to begin with...outrage would be inappropriate (even if it is frequent in such matters).

I WILL say that your avatar could be seen as more offensive to people with delicate sensibilities. Putting images of starving children up is bound to outrage some.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:47 PM by Ben Niceknowinya


Originally posted by Rocketgirl
Originally posted by mostlyspoons
Rap sucks anyway

theres no musical value at all. Period. It is a tool of the music industry for controlling black youth, and serves to perpetuate racial divides.



Exaclty, I don't see why people can't listen to classical music or another kind of music that doesn't talk bad about people.





Maybe (goes for the both of you) people don't like what you like.....

Maybe people are more open minded.......maybe......



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:49 PM by Rocketgirl


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Ok so I'm not open minded because I don't like music that talks bad about women.

Omg, go get a life.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:50 PM by bigfatfurrytexan


Originally posted by Diplomat
Originally posted by mostlyspoons
Rap sucks anyway

theres no musical value at all. Period. It is a tool of the music industry for controlling black youth, and serves to perpetuate racial divides.


That's just an ignorant statement is all that is. Define music. What is "music?" It is simply putting sounds together with rhythm, which is exactly what rap does. I think maybe you just don't like the "content" of which most rap artists choose to rap about.


I see little artistic value in most of it. Rap has gotten to where it lacks originality. It uses sampled music from past musical "greats", and then applies very, very poor English that is very loosely associated in the form of metaphor for "lyrics".

Growing up i listened to a wide range of music from metal, to opera, to classical, to rap. Rap used to be good back when you had folks like Public Enemy using it to promote social awareness. Now it is musical pornography.

My kids are not allowed to listen to it. Not because I am prudish, but because i want them to develop thought processes that see sex as a background function of existence, not the reason for existence. If my kids are unable to interact with women in their daily lives without sexual urges and undertones, then i have done them a HUGE disservice as the person who was tasked with providing them leadership and guidance.



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 11:48 PM by Insubordinate Soul


I dont think Whip It Like A Slave is catchy even in my best ghetto ebonics voice, i mean its not even witty

Whip It Like A Slave Whip It Like A Slave yall lol



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reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 12:57 AM by jimminycricket


It just sounds like the usual moronic pop rap to me, "bunch of money, bunch of drugs", blah blah blah. I can't even be bothered to get offended over something of such little value.



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reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 12:59 AM by jd140


There is a double standard when it comes to things like this. Its one of those things that is generally accepted as racism is such a touchy subject. Nobody dares breach it or they will be deamed the racist.



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reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 01:01 AM by Sentry-


So I guess this offends a ton of other races too then huh? Slavery has existed for hundreds of thousands of years before the slaves that you seem to be defining. The term "slave" has nothing to do with a black person or the color of someones skin... I can point you to a lot of horrific, stupid, and down right ignorant forms of music, this is one of those songs I guess.

No one should give a damn really, I think its pretty silly either way but nothing new at all.

I guess because you might live in the USA and they teach you USA stuff in schools, that when thinknig the work slavery you automatically picture a black person, but slavery has existed around the world for all of history, it's definition is not a black human being, or anything like that at all.

Just don't listen to this type of #, its pathetic stuff.



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reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 01:52 AM by conspiracyrus


Listen here, lets look past the blatant slavery and black oppression remarks. The fact is this particular song is very out of line .. Simply becuase it is absolutely the worst music i have ever heard. On top of that ... I think the black community should be offended. I can understand if the song had real historical significance ... and i do not mean a reference to "Kunta Kinte" What this "Lyricist" says is rediculous throughout the song... i mean "Im talking sugar im talking dough like bengay"? "Check my pockets more money than lint check my dishes residue like a bitch" ?

What happened to the Wu ... i swear every one of them would eat Lil wayne alive, Quote the wu "I bomb atomically Socrates philosophies and hypothesis cant define how i be dropping these mockeries lyrically preform armed robbery" or "With the voltage of a eel i slam on amatuers who scream they keep it real!" Or this line from Meth which is debated a "triple entendre" begin "Enter the Square if you dare without a flaw im so raw that im rare"

Lil; wayne is nothing more than a Hack who plays on the prejudices of blacks and whites and makes a nonsensical rant about how hes better than both ... I mean come on ppl ... hes not a musician ... hes a money grabber

come on ... everyone should be able to get behind this one....
Edit Mods i am sorry for profanity ... they are direct quotes... as well Notice that Wu-Tang does not use profanity as a crutch ... yes they use profanity i am not debating that but there best lines are profanity free

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reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 02:04 AM by jimminycricket


Originally posted by conspiracyrus
What happened to the Wu ... i swear every one of them would eat Lil wayne alive, Quote the wu "I bomb atomically Socrates philosophies and hypothesis cant define how i be dropping these mockeries lyrically preform armed robbery" or "With the voltage of a eel i slam on amatuers who scream they keep it real!" Or this line from Meth which is debated a "triple entendre" begin "Enter the Square if you dare without a flaw im so raw that im rare"

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How about RZA's verse on 4th chamber, that whole GZA album is amazing.

It's always sad to me to see political rap, or stuff with great wordplay ignored in preference of ignorant disrespectful garbage.



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