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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I see little artistic value in most of it. Rap has gotten to where it lacks originality. It uses sampled music from past musical "greats"
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I see little artistic value in most of it. Rap has gotten to where it lacks originality. It uses sampled music from past musical "greats", and then applies very, very poor English that is very loosely associated in the form of metaphor for "lyrics".
Growing up i listened to a wide range of music from metal, to opera, to classical, to rap. Rap used to be good back when you had folks like Public Enemy using it to promote social awareness. Now it is musical pornography.
My kids are not allowed to listen to it. Not because I am prudish, but because i want them to develop thought processes that see sex as a background function of existence, not the reason for existence. If my kids are unable to interact with women in their daily lives without sexual urges and undertones, then i have done them a HUGE disservice as the person who was tasked with providing them leadership and guidance.
Originally posted by jimminycricket
Originally posted by conspiracyrus
What happened to the Wu ... i swear every one of them would eat Lil wayne alive, Quote the wu "I bomb atomically Socrates philosophies and hypothesis cant define how i be dropping these mockeries lyrically preform armed robbery" or "With the voltage of a eel i slam on amatuers who scream they keep it real!" Or this line from Meth which is debated a "triple entendre" begin "Enter the Square if you dare without a flaw im so raw that im rare"
[edit on 4-6-2009 by conspiracyrus]
How about RZA's verse on 4th chamber, that whole GZA album is amazing.
It's always sad to me to see political rap, or stuff with great wordplay ignored in preference of ignorant disrespectful garbage.
Originally posted by Diplomat
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I see little artistic value in most of it. Rap has gotten to where it lacks originality. It uses sampled music from past musical "greats"
Actually it doesn't. "Some" does, but most of it doesn't. The rap producers who I appreciate do not "sample" old songs, they compose every single piece of the "beat." I think you are just referring to "mainstream rap" that you hear on MTV or your local "hip-hop" radio station. Most of you obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to rap music, so why even speak on it?
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Tell me. You're in Texas, right? Can you explain to me why "y'all gunna" is acceptable, but "you's finna" isn't? I encountered this all over the place in the south when I was in school: "Them there pollytishuns shun't be lettinem teach no dang EE-boniks in them schools. Ain't proper english, y'all know whud ah mean?"
As for the artistic value of rap... Really? You think your prefrred genre of music is any different? Fact is, 80% of all music made is crap, and radio only selects songs from that particular pool. There is lots of damn good rap out there, but you're not going to find it on a radio station any more than you're going to find good country, good rock, or even good classical.
Well, guess you better keep the radio and TV off for a good long while man Or, alternately, you could let them listen, and still teach them your own values. Trust me when it comes to an argument between Puff Daddy and Actual Daddy, Actual Daddy will win.
of course your kids are guaranteed to figure out their sexual lives completely independently from anything you try. But, that's never stopped a parent before.
[edit on 4-6-2009 by TheWalkingFox]
Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
reply to post by baseball101
I think what should be just as offensive is that they are referred to as "Blacks".
I mean, come on man. Haven't we moved past that already. I'm not the most politically correct person in the world by any means but "Blacks"
I think I would afford them the dignity of at least choosing a description of them based on something other than their skin color.
African Americans, The African American community, peoples of African American decent, etc.
Sorry to be so rude but it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up when I read the heading, and I am just a Honkey from the Midwest.
Originally posted by nh_ee
Not all Slaves were Black ...
The term Slave is derived from Slav, who categorically belong to eastern Europeans that were enslaved by the Vikings.
Jews were enslaved by the ancient Egyptians and also by the Nazis.
Just to broaden your perspective a bit...