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Originally posted by Facefirst
I rememmber the 80's portion, but I have several members of the family who were alive back in the 50's and said that they never lived in fear over nuclear war, it was just two paranoid nations threatening each other but none of them really had the "balls" to launch knowing that MAD was in place.\
Originally posted by RedOctober90
the Islamic fundemtalists wouldn't think twice about launching nukes.
During the Cold War atleast there was warning of an attack.
[Edited on 2-5-2004 by RedOctober90]
Originally posted by RedOctober90
Very good and true points there.
I use the viewpoints of the elders in my family who were around during this time. Today, they feel as if this new global islamic fundemtalism is far worse than anything they have seen so far. We are dealing with people who do not have the same Western type morals and values and think what they do is for Allah, therefore they wouldn't think twice about blowing up the world if it was for allah and the 72 virgins. The USA and USSR yes of course were at each others throats at certain points, but these are mostly countries founded upon European people, with of course Caucasian values/morals. We knew the implications of the use of nukes and based them upon our morals/values, not based upon a religion and pleasing our almighty creator.
Originally posted by Facefirst
Originally posted by RedOctober90
Very good and true points there.
I use the viewpoints of the elders in my family who were around during this time. Today, they feel as if this new global islamic fundemtalism is far worse than anything they have seen so far. We are dealing with people who do not have the same Western type morals and values and think what they do is for Allah, therefore they wouldn't think twice about blowing up the world if it was for allah and the 72 virgins. The USA and USSR yes of course were at each others throats at certain points, but these are mostly countries founded upon European people, with of course Caucasian values/morals. We knew the implications of the use of nukes and based them upon our morals/values, not based upon a religion and pleasing our almighty creator.
I do agree with many points you bring up, but fanatics are fanatics regardless of it being to God or to one's country or if that belief is European based. (The Waffen SS come to mind) Don't you think if the Waffen SS had nukes in the final days of WWII that they would have not hesitated to use regardless of the damage to their own country? judging by all the stories I have heard told by allied troops, I don't doubt that they would have.
The stakes were so high in the cold war, that neither side could risk under-estimating the other. All sides had been through a great deal in WWII.
An entertaining insight into fanatic behavior during the Cold War is the movie "Dr. Strangelove." (Stanley Kubrick, I highly recommend it
I personally agree with you that global fundamentalism is a great threat to the prosperity of the world. Communism vs Capitalism was a battle of ideas, but there seemed to be some common ground based in reality, not the promise of virgins and eternal bliss.
I just cannot seem to see an immediate solution. Just how does one combat an idea or ideaology?
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Originally posted by devilwasp
russia just got kicked in the (V) area
just give them a wee while theyll be back
Originally posted by devilwasp
well yeah that didnt really help thier economy did it?
also when the comie gov bankrupted them didnt help etheir?
Originally posted by CoMrAdE_IvAn
i guess al of them captain american books make people think Russia would really invade the US.
Originally posted by Facefirst
Originally posted by CoMrAdE_IvAn
i guess al of them captain american books make people think Russia would really invade the US.
No, it was the Rambo movies
From a quote like that, my guess is it that you are too young to remember the ColdWar.
No one knew for sure!
Get that through your head.
[Edited on 4-5-2004 by Facefirst]
Originally posted by devilwasp
actually the planners at the kremlin knew
russia wouldnt have invaded cause they were hppy having an "enemy" to make thier citizens stay in the military