It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Texas Secedes??????

page: 5
3
<< 2  3  4    6  7 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 06:15 PM
link   
reply to post by ActivePatriot
 


I just wanted to comment on property taxes in TX. While it can be out of control depending on your situation, the taxes down here are no where near as crazy as they are in other parts of the country.

My only experience comes in the state of Virginia, and I'll tell you what they have crazy taxes...

If you have a dog, VA taxes you...
If you have a vehicle, they charge a property tax on that
Your home, but thats everywhere...
What I found crazy was if all you made last year was 50 bucks then virginia would want a dollar of it...

Texas does have some issues regarding home/land property taxes, but all in all they tax MUCH less than other states... With no state income tax, they are at the top of my list... Of course I'm biased, lol




posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 06:36 PM
link   
I wonder what the legal thing is regarding citizenship if Texas does secede.

I'm not on the bandwagon of "I'll go there as soon as they leave!" but I am from Texas. Galveston is my home, I love it's delightfully trashy factor (I say that in the most endearing way possible..I really do love this place!) and I plan on moving back to the area once I get my post-college life started. Say Texas does secede before that time in my life, would I be welcomed back with open arms? I'm not saying from the people because, hey, I know they're awesome, I'm talking from a government sense. Hypethetically, what would one have to do to get back in? Or would the face that I was born there make me able to return with no problem?



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 07:24 PM
link   
reply to post by Question
 


Well, I wish Texas would secede, BUT, Rick Perry is an illuminatist, so, he's just conning fellow Texans. He did go to the last Bilderburg meeting and he just declared a state of emergency for the state of Texas because of the so called flu scare. I think Rick perry has a back bone of a jellyfish and hasn't even really considered separating from the union. But, he's a politician, and he wants big gov't just like everybody else in D.C.
Maybe I'm wrong, but if he's really serious about seceding, then he'll tell D.C. to stay the hell out. So, I really hope Texas is separate from every other state...Just have to wait and see.
Your Fellow Texan,
TheAngryAmerican



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 07:30 PM
link   
reply to post by Heatburger
 


Well, I was born and raised in Texas, and if you were born there...once a Texan, always a Texan.
And if you have lived there for 3 years or more...your a Texan. 6 months to 3 years, almost a Texan, but a Texan nonetheless... ;D



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 07:36 PM
link   
I pray that Texas departs from the USA.
That state is a disgrace and should be part of corrupt Mexico.
Any state that gave us the Bush demons deserves to fry in a Mexican nightmare.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 07:43 PM
link   

Originally posted by Electricneo

I pray that Texas departs from the USA.
That state is a disgrace and should be part of corrupt Mexico.
Any state that gave us the Bush demons deserves to fry in a Mexican nightmare.


You're absolutely right, so, how do we send Connecticut to Mexico?



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 07:48 PM
link   
Bushes settled in Texas because turds tend to clump together in a steaming pile.
The origin of turds-the restaurant-the cafeteria-the table-the farmland -is irrelevant.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 08:28 PM
link   
First off i take offense to someone proclaiming we TEXANS gave you the Bush Bunch.

Those folks are yankees!!! So they just came in to pick the fruit.(Note: No disrespect meant to yall up north, perhaps there is a better word to describe these elite folks, I apoligize if anyone took offense)

It is true some of my fellow Texans voted Jr. in as Govenor,(Beats the heck out of me why), and it is true that Daddy Bush's name helped the little s_ _ t get elected, but that aint got no bearing on us Texans as a whole. Remember it was the rest of the Americans that helped elect (or select) Jr. to be the leader of our use to be free country.

Now as for Sessesion, that is the Texan Dream (to some anyway). Yes it is legally possible but it would be a hell of a fight doin it,(We gots lots of oil, and refinery's, and power houses, and natural resources, hell we even got the Johnson Space center, Come to think of it, if we sessede we would be a superpower nation, not bad for a bunch of cowpokes)

Seriously, I do not think it would be in the best intrest of our nation if Texas was to do this, and though it was left on the table when Texas entered the union, as that Texas was a soverign nation at the time, I do not see it as something we as a State of the United States of America should do. We are Americans, not something else. For me that title has more weight and pride than anything else I could proclaim myself to be.
No I do not think Texas would ever Sessede, nor should she. We must always stand united, (not so much politically but in reality), we must always be Americans first above all else, everything after that is just topics to argue about.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 08:40 PM
link   
reply to post by TheAngryAmerican
 



hahaha yeah. I lived there maybe 6 months after I was born, but I visit every summer and every Christmas, more if I can get the time off that year. It's more my home than any of the 7 cities/states I've lived in!

And as for "honorary Texans" as I call them, my family makes visiting friends and non-Texan relatives gig and eat their own crab to earn their rights to Texas.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:17 PM
link   
Sorry, to burst your bubble Question but all Rick Perry is doing is posturing.He's going to be facing Kay Bailey Hutchison in the governors race so,don't take all his bs seriously in fact,don't take anyone's rap seriously especially politicians.

[edit on 093030p://1826 by mike dangerously]



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:18 PM
link   
reply to post by Wolfpack 51
 


While I understand your concern and your pride in wanting to be american first and foremost. What would the point be though, if being american no longer has the same meaning as it did in the past? If being an american turns into being a socialist, I'd rather turn the tables and be a confederate rebel, capable of handling his own, instead of someone who needs mommy govt. to help you clean yourself.

Remember the declaration of independence. If along comes a government that is tyrannical and abusive in nature, the rights are still reserved to change it or abolish it altogether. If unfortunately, the only way to change it, or at least change it for texans (since I'm sure the majority of the other blue states won't want to abolish the nanny state), is to secede, then do it!

To my fellow Texans, don't you dare change, don't you dare lose your balls. One of the things I like about your state is that there are still many ballsy individuals who have no issue with standing up for what's right and let you know about it, and if you don't like it? Then you show them the door (or the prison cell if they're criminals) Don't you dare fall for this submissive feel good crap that Obama and Washington is trying to shovel your way, the whole "We need to be nice to terrorists/criminals and abolish guns" crap. Stand up, raise your arms and give washington the bird and say "F*ck you! This is Texas b*tch and we don't need to answer to your unconstitutional bull sh*t laws!"



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:20 PM
link   
reply to post by mike dangerously
 


I know that your point has been brought up and it very well could be true from what has been said. That being said... I didn't say it would be done tomorrow. It's possible that the next time around They MIGHT vote someone in that WILL do something about it.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:28 PM
link   
reply to post by Question
 
HA,I don't see any Texas politician with the nerve to take that step.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:31 PM
link   
reply to post by Question
 


Have to agree with you, California is a state filled with pretentious, self-righteous, progressive elite idiots. Most of the problems with America today could be solved if both New York and California fell into the sea.

I have known many Texans and firmly believe they will succeed soon, or certainly as soon as this general immigrant amnesty is approved. Then will follow several other states. The second American revolution approaches.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 10:43 PM
link   
reply to post by XTexan
 


No offense but, just because somewhere might be worse doesn't make the situation in Texas wrong.

The rate in my county was 2.6%
on a $130,000 home thats $3380

That's almost $300 a month for the privilage to live there.

Add 8.25% sales tax, how much do you buy in Texas?

Say you made $50,000 a year.
property taxes would be 6.7% of your income.

say you spend $15,000 a year on taxable items in Texas.
Thats $1237 in Sales Tax, another 2.4% of your income

9% of your income on Property and Sales Taxes!

What 5-6% on mortgage interest?
Got Kids? Wouldn't you rather set some of the money you spend on taxes aside for their college?

Point is people need to look at their income and expenses and realize how much is thrown down the drain on interest and taxes. The vast majority of people are nothing more than slaves to debt.

I hope no one takes offense to that, I'm fighting to get out of the same trap most others are in. People need to wake up.

They aren't going to pay off their house and retire in relative comfort like their parents or grandparents may have.

That system no longer exists.

That is a cold hard fact

That system no longer exists.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 11:02 PM
link   
reply to post by Electricneo
 


Indeed you are truly ignorant of the situation and your righteousness amplifies your ignorance. I hope you too enjoy your slave master in D.C.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 11:04 PM
link   
reply to post by TheAngryAmerican
 


No doubt Perry is a globalist hack. Even for what a moron he is he can see the writing on the wall and the end of his political career if he does not get in line with the will of Texans. I just hope no one falls for it.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 11:51 PM
link   
reply to post by Blaine91555
 


Its gonna be hard to secede while your still dependent on the US's power grid, and its federal tax dollars.... Alaska is in no shape to secede.

Texas has its own power grid, something you'd have to have to be independent... Texas is also the nation's largest exporter of goods. Texas' gross state product was nearly 1.3 TRILLION dollars in '08, making it the 15th largest economy in the world. With plenty fresh water and farmland, we'd have no problem feeding ourselves. We've got coal, we're home to major oil companies, and we have lots of REFINERIES. You can add fuel exports to the trillion plus gross product...
If freed from the constraints of the US gov't, the economy would SOAR...

Yeah, Texas would be just fine on its own. Alaska...well Alaska would be cold and dark...at least at the beginning. Oil... Better start drillin now



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 11:58 PM
link   

Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
reply to post by TheAngryAmerican
 


No doubt Perry is a globalist hack. Even for what a moron he is he can see the writing on the wall and the end of his political career if he does not get in line with the will of Texans. I just hope no one falls for it.


Yeah, give him credit for at least being aware of his constituency...

Being a politician is "damned if you do; damned if you don't" but they chose the job and it's no easier than any of our day jobs.

Worst part of Perry is that he's linked to BilderBugs; that means any decision he makes needs investigation. They (BilderBugs) might be theorizing how to make "Texas Succession" work for them. When they figure out how to make the most profit from it, they'll make the Perry Puppet dance.

I'll give Perry credit for his strong, inspiring speech that he gave at the 04·15·09 TeaParty... That was well done.

Where's Chuck Norris?



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 12:50 AM
link   
everyone i know wants texas to secede and legalize marihuana - we failed to mention that is one of our largest cash crops, especially if we annex mexico...we also have a large fishing industry...

check out www.texassecede.com......



new topics

top topics



 
3
<< 2  3  4    6  7 >>

log in

join