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Originally posted by Wolfpack 51
. . . we must always be Americans first above all else, everything after that is just topics to argue about.
Originally posted by SGTChas
reply to post by Question
Have to agree with you, California is a state filled with pretentious, self-righteous, progressive elite idiots. Most of the problems with America today could be solved if both New York and California fell into the sea.
I have known many Texans and firmly believe they will succeed soon, or certainly as soon as this general immigrant amnesty is approved. Then will follow several other states. The second American revolution approaches.
Originally posted by Question
reply to post by slimpickens93
Exactly, my father was trying to make a point that if they tried to secede legally. The fed might try to BS it's way and finding excuses to NOT allow Texas to secede etc. etc. but from my point of view, if Texas wants to secede from the union, they can, they will and there's nothing the govt. can do except to threaten by force, in which case, the U.S. will have become a nation illegally invading a sovereign free republic. Not that I'd put it past the U.S. govt. to do that, they've done it so many times, they're experts at it.
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
I support secession if it can be done non-violently. Our government is tyrannical.
But then again so are the states ...
Reply to Wolfpack 51
reply to post by xxpigxx
It is really a sad day when you put yourself ahead of the nation.
My family goes back several generations in the great state of Texas.
They fought for our rights we have today. What they fought and died for was the United States of America, our country. They were Texas proud, Im Texas proud. I dont mind mouthing off with BS. But when you want to get serious, Texas Session is not the answer. The history for Texas was that the people of this great State never ran from a fight, and keeping our nation is a far greater calling than hauling A_ _ and leaving our country men and women behind.
If you really want to stand for Texas, then organize and fight to reclaim the nation through the system. Get yourself appointed to run for office in some manner, stand and make a line in the sand and recruit others to do the same.
No, being a Texan is not easy. To do what is really right is hard. Session would simply be a way of saying you cant take the heat, you cant stand and fight for what you believe.
It sure sounds so cool to state that "Im a Texan and we all say to hell with the USA, we dont need nothing from anyone". but that is not who the people of this state really are. The people of the Great State of Texas by far are honorable, patriotic, and loyal to our country, and if the poll was taken across this state, overwhelmingly we would not be for deserting our brothers and sisters of the other states.
I read this site because I believe there is a lot of things that arent right, and here I find like minded people on many issues. I think that you are most likely a good, honest and patriotic person. I do not doubt you may feel session is a good option, but I also think if you really set down and soul search that you just might find that the nation as a whole is far greater than any of us divided.
If it is a fight you want, then arm yourself by entering into the system, learn to use the tools there to win back what it is we have lost. Use the power of you persuasion and insight to get others to follow suit. If gaining Texas freedom is the issue, then take the governorship, make a run for the top office and when you win, use your clout to negotiate with the federal government to work to change things for the better.
That is a far more noble goal than sesseding and leaving our country men and women behind.
"Texas is a free and independent State ... All political power is inherent in the people ... they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper." — Texas Constitution (1876)
"Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed... Whenever government becomes destructive to life, liberty, or property [i.e., the pursuit of happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it... It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." — American Declaration of Independence (1776)