Texas Secedes??????

Hello everyone!

Unfortunately I don't have much information on this issue and I wanted to ask people here in ATS if they have heard anything about this.

Last weekend, my wife came back from a baptism and she had mentioned that my dad had gone into one of his political "rants" (apparently I'm the spitting image since I do the same) and she had mentioned that, he had heard on the news (didn't mention which) that apparently the state of Texas either has successfully seceded from the union, or is already on the move and in the last stages to secede from the union. Needless to say, I was very psyched to hear this news and if this is true, then I'll honestly have to consider moving to Texas from Georgia. The thing is, I haven't really heard much about this since then, not on the news at least, unless I missed it. I wanted to ask if anybody had heard if Texas has actually seceded or not?

The closest info I got is from here and it has more links to visit.
Texas Secede FAQ

reply to post by Question


GREAT NEWS

I hope so...

HAVE FUN TEXAS

won't miss ya

You don't have to ask again, you can just use the search feature in the upper right hand of the screen. Search for "Rick Perry", "Texas", etc. and you'll find numerous discussions that have already taken place. I know it's not fun to jump in late on a discussion but it helps a little on cutting out duplicate threads.

reply to post by mental modulator


Have fun in the USSA
Won't miss ya either.

reply to post by beaverg


All I remember from the Rick Perry threads, was that they were planning on exercising their 10th ammendment rights, not necessarily that they were going to secede, let alone that they ACTUALLY seceded. That's what I'm trying to find out, if they actually seceded or are about to.

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Oh, I haven't seen anything come of it. Most of the posts I read assumed he was just posturing himself for a re-election bid. Much like Arlen Specter did today by switching parties. I also read that Perry is a pawn of the PTB, but that was just from a guy, and I don't have a second guy to back that up.

I live hear and would have heard about it by now...Trust me.

2nd line

That's ridiculous....Texas will not secede...there's too much interdependence between states and the industries that exist in them...It isn't worth the trouble really. It wouldn't help corporate interests on either side.

[edit on 29-4-2009 by laiguana]

Originally posted by laiguana
That's ridiculous....Texas will not secede...there's too much interdependence between states and the industries that exist in them...It isn't worth the trouble really. It wouldn't help corporate interests on either side.

[edit on 29-4-2009 by laiguana]

***DISCLAIMER***

I don't want to secede. I love these United States of America. I'd rather see the Federal Government do what is was designed to do: be an agent of the States and of The People.

***DISCLAIMER OFF***

Theoretically it could be worth the trouble if things got much worse. Texas does have a lot of industry, including petrochemical.

Theoretically, if Texas were again its own country, it could decide if it wanted to trade with countries the U.S. government has embargoed.

It could also avoid entangling foreign wars and foreign alliances, as Thomas Jefferson advised so long ago.

Its citizens would hold duel citizenship if born before the secession, and anyone who worked 10 consecutive years before the secession would be entitled to their U.S. Social Security benefits.

Texas is also one of the few states currently with no income tax, yet they have a budget surplus, unlike California who has an income tax and is still running negative.

I doubt very much at this time any state will secede in the near future. The subject is brought up over and over because upon joining these United States of America, Texas reserved the right to leave if the State wanted to. People quickly jump on the "Texas is Seceding" subject anytime someone reminds them the State has the right to do so.

I would miss Texas if it secedes... Might even emigrate there since our Federal Gov't has it's head so far up it's ass it doesn't know what We The People want for our nation.

I learned hatred while living in California. It's a beautiful state but the inhabitants ....

For those who say a hearty Mary Hart "Buh Bye" to Texas, if they choose to exercise their Constitutional Right to secede because of federal grief, I'd say you should all fall into the socialist state that you've asked for soon.

Then after all the states that have seceded and survived the federal collapse can invade all remaining socialist states and kick out the anti-american socialists to Russia and China.

aSTaLaViSTa Babies.

The world can then regain the respect for America that it once commanded. Before the looters started running the game into the ground.

Go Texas!


[edit on 4·29·09 by DrMattMaddix]

reply to post by laiguana


LOL! Funny you say that considering that if ANY state in the union is the best equipped to survive on its own, it's Texas. Obviously you don't know much about how much industry Texas produces. If anything, secession would probably HELP Texas since now they wouldn't be bound by any of the ridiculous laws imposed on them. While something like 48 of the states were running on the RED ( I don't remember the exact number) during this recent recession (Thanks to our two monkey presidents Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama), Texas was STILL running and was still only "at risk" but not necessarily in the RED.

reply to post by DrMattMaddix


I probably would miss Texas too, and would definetely be making plans to move there. I myself was born in Houston, but sadly, I never got to visit. We moved soon after I was born. I could definetely see a reason to go visit now. At least Texans have more "cojones" than most of the other states and would probably handle a secession better just out of spite for the federal govt.

I also think Texas should secede. The next step is that Mexico would annex Texas and the rest of the US could have access to cheap tequila and Dos X with out having to pay the exorbitant liquor tax.

I still own the family farm outside of Lubbock. Perhaps I could establish my own state and secede from Texas. In my state; Hedonism would rule the day.

[edit on 29-4-2009 by whaaa]

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Somehow I seriously doubt Mexico would annex Texas, if anything, it would probably be the other way around.

Originally posted by Question
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Somehow I seriously doubt Mexico would annex Texas, if anything, it would probably be the other way around.

Perhaps, but Texas looks more like Mexico every day. I find my Espanol much more useful in Texas than even here in NM.

reply to post by mental modulator


Boy thats a strong statement coming from California...............

[edit on 29-4-2009 by Cloudsinthesky]

reply to post by Cloudsinthesky


Somehow I'm actually not surprised though. I always felt California was a garbage state. Filled with too many pretentious a-holes who think they know everything and want to shove their 2 cent ideas down people's throats like they're the gospel. Leaving the union so it would no longer be associated with california would be a good enough reason in my book.

Originally posted by whaaa
I also think Texas should secede. The next step is that Mexico would annex Texas and the rest of the US could have access to cheap tequila and Dos X with out having to pay the exorbitant liquor tax.

I still own the family farm outside of Lubbock. Perhaps I could establish my own state and secede from Texas. In my state; Hedonism would rule the day.

[edit on 29-4-2009 by whaaa]

yup...and all the money men and business owners wouldn't have to pretend to check green cards for the dirt cheap wages they would pay mexicans. they could just work them 12 hours a day every day and nobody would bother with pesky labor laws.

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I grew up in Texas, and the myth that Texas could secede always gets thrown around every few years. The truth is not that Texas can secede, but that it can break up into smaller states.

reply to post by SpacePunk


From what I remember in my history classes. Before joining the union, Texas had the stipulation that it in fact could secede from the union if it deemed that the govt. was in breach of their original contract. Nothing was mentioned about Texas splitting into separate states.. But I suppose that if Texas does secede and in turn, ends up becoming it's own republic I suppose it would be possible that it would turn into separate smaller states that would be answerable to the Texas govt. That's how a lot of countries work.

But I'm not talking about Texas breaking into separate states, I'm talking about the state itself breaking away from the union. Texas has always had that right and if ever there was a reason to exercise that right, since the federal govt. has definetely breached contract several times, this would be the time to secede. Lest it decides to go down with the rest of the USSA.

I'm sorry, but Texas' right to secede is NOT a myth, it is fact. It's one of the very few states that actually reserves that right.

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