Why do Atheists care about religion?, page 3


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reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 05:13 PM by Toadmund
reply to post by bilmerys


You may in some cases be partially right.
Me, being agnostic, is there a god? I don't know.
BUT, I will play atheist in an attempt to have a believer out there somewhere convince me that there is a god. Sure, I'd love to be convinced, I am sure every atheist and agnostic would.

But they fail, every one of them.

So I remain agnostic.

I am here Let this be me :
Theist..........Agnostic..... .....Atheist.

When I was younger, I tried being religious, but as hard as I read the bible and tried to believe, a nagging doubt followed me around. It just took awhile for reason to catch up with me.
Dear Christians, if you wish to remain religious don't read the bible (I am sure for many Christians their bibles will crack as they open it, that would be the sound of the bindings being flexed for the first time) for a modern person, reading the bible is the first step toward agnosticism.

And how did religion negatively affect me?
It got GWB elected, twice, and the world will take a long time healing for that.

Anybody that says god talks to them is unfit for public office IMO. Like that wouldn't be open for abuse.

PS, what part of genesis has the E=mc2 equation?



reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 05:44 PM by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by lastxdance




Keep in mind the Earth was not proven to be flat until long after the days of Jesus and the Old Testament at that.


Not true.
Eratosthenes and Archimedes both proved that the world was spherical, and Eratosthenes even calculated the diameter of the earth:
en.wikipedia.org...
Eratosthenes of Cyrene (Greek Ἐρατοσθένης; c. 276 BC[1] - c. 195 BC[2]) was a Greek mathematician, poet, athlete, geographer and astronomer. He made several discoveries and inventions including a system of latitude and longitude. He was the first Greek to calculate the circumference of the Earth (with remarkable accuracy), and the tilt of the earth's axis (also with remarkable accuracy); he may also have accurately calculated the distance from the earth to the sun and invented the leap day. [2] He also created a map of the world based on the available geographical knowledge of the era. Eratosthenes was also the founder of scientific chronology; he endeavored to fix the dates of the chief literary and political events from the conquest of Troy.



reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 07:33 PM by vcwxvwligen
reply to post by Gawdzilla


Ok, but do you know why people do it?

Do you really believe that powerful men would bow their heads to a "sky fairy" for no reason?


reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 07:37 PM by Gawdzilla
reply to post by vcwxvwligen


First what makes you think those powerful men are sincere and not just giving lip-service to a system that helps keep them in power?

As for why people in general do it, they're cowards. They can't conceive of the universe without them in it. Death is the boggey man and they'll jump through any hoop to avoid him. Pathetic, simply pathetic.


reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 07:53 PM by Welfhard
reply to post by spy66




This is why atheists dont believe in God. Even this comedian has some good points worth thinking about.


No that's why atheists don't believe in the bible. Well, partly why, there's plenty more to be had in the bible than the laughable genesis.

Atheists don't believe in God because of the 'faith' issue. You know that whole believing willy nilly without evidence thing.

[edit on 11-4-2009 by Welfhard]


reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 07:59 PM by Welfhard
reply to post by Gawdzilla


"You will have to crawl on your belly all your days." Not much of a punishment there.

[edit on 11-4-2009 by Welfhard]


reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 08:15 PM by ghaleon12
No one wants to be alone in misery. They have come to their own conclusion that there is nothing that is going to exist after their body dies, and they want others to feel the same way as them. Like I said, if everyone around you is happy and you're sad, it'll make you feel worse. If even one person is also sad, it provides some comfort.

Do you think they just want to have their atheist belief, be quiet (which is what they should do) and become dust in the wind? Heck no, they need to shout from the rooftops that their own fate is everyone else's as well.

I think they denounce religion because that way at least they'll have free choice, but even if you're rebelling against something, you're giving it power and it isn't free choice. You're just being "anti" whatever it is you don't like.

If they did be quiet with their beliefs, I think too in a way they'd become and feel like an animal compared to others. But if they can attack and lash out against the people that they feel (and are) superior to them, then they feel like their life has value and it gives them a pretense of superiority. When in reality, it is baseless.


BUT, I will play atheist in an attempt to have a believer out there somewhere convince me that there is a god. Sure, I'd love to be convinced, I am sure every atheist and agnostic would.

But they fail, every one of them.


That is pretty pathetic and frankly that's what a lot of people do. Truly the American way, forget about God, our god is laziness. You're hopeless with an attitude like that. No one has to do your work for you, no one should do it for you. If you have a desire to connect with God, good for you. If you don't care and don't have a desire to connect with God, don't expect others to miraculously prove to you anything. Don't expect them to implant a desire in your heart for God. You fail yourself, no one else fails you. It is everyone's duty to come to God.

Forget about what you "believe", it's what a person desires and that is what you work with.

[edit on 11-4-2009 by ghaleon12]


reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 08:23 PM by Aermacchi
Originally posted by Gawdzilla
Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by lastxdance

The Bible might just be right, and contrary to popular belief science merely adds to its validity.


Care to share?


Don't get your hopes up. The bluster is strong with this one. Unfounded assertions are rather rife here, and answers are hard to come by.


Oh I wouldnt lie like that Gawdshater, evolutionists just got there asses handed back to them in the thread you are only able to talk smack in and have never attempted to engage in anything more than your bitterness and whining over that day they almost water boarded you into Christianity trying to "shove it down your throat"

You prove your zealotry and your religion of atheism in all you are about and you are as fundamentalist as any hell fire brimstone baptist i have ever seen and even more dogmatic


reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 08:25 PM by Aermacchi
Originally posted by Gawdzilla
reply to post by vcwxvwligen


First what makes you think those powerful men are sincere and not just giving lip-service to a system that helps keep them in power?

As for why people in general do it, they're cowards. They can't conceive of the universe without them in it. Death is the boggey man and they'll jump through any hoop to avoid him. Pathetic, simply pathetic.


They don't say you won't find any atheists in foxholes for nothing.

If you don't agree, it is most likely the same reason I don't agree with your broad brush sweeping all believers under your own presumptuous bigotry and hatred


reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 08:30 PM by scorand
reply to post by Aermacchi


and again i see you need to practice what you preach.. you love to make the claim that people are bigoted and are haters against believers.. my how hypocritical.. and talk about brushing with a broad brush..


reply posted on 11-4-2009 @ 08:31 PM by Gawdzilla
Originally posted by scorand
reply to post by Aermacchi


and again i see you need to practice what you preach.. you love to make the claim that people are bigoted and are haters against believers.. my how hypocritical.. and talk about brushing with a broad brush..


Sad, isn't it, when a good person acts like a god-botherer? Now if your type wasn't pushing your voodoo idols down everybody else's throats you have never heard from me.
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