G20 leaders seal $1.1tr global deal

reply to post by Shadowflux


Yes, wouldnt it be great to live in a World of peace and prosperity.

It's everyones hope. Unfortunatly it will never happen.

We've got war ships headed out, etc. How many more wars do we need. That's a bit off topic but it fits.

It's too late to turn back now. The grand scheme of things is now in place. We havent seen anything yet.

When SHTF I expect martial law to follow, search and seizures. This global governance is very deceptive and not what it seems.

I'm glad I live Rural and dont need help from any type of government. I am a survivalist and have seen this coming. Including the currency issue.

I moved out of town to the Country when the gangs moved in. Now it is not them I fear but this stuff.

Originally posted by 27jd
Holy crap, he actually came out and said it, lol...

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown heralded the emergence of a "new world order" Thursday as the G-20 issued details of an "unprecedented" package of measures to tackle the global economic crisis.

www.cnn.com...

You'd think they would be careful not to use that term, unless they lurk here on ATS and enjoy laughing at everybody freaking out. More and more like Star Wars everyday...

Thats because when politicians talk about a new world order, the world doesn't listen and think "new world order" conspiratorially, they think of it politically. Politicians have been talking about new world order since world war 1.

reply to post by believer81


Good observation. The problem is, the NWO piggybacks on the back of the progressive-sounding political rhetoric.

reply to post by believer81


Yeah, the term has been used, but it's never seemed as close to actuality as it does now. I don't believe the circumstances were ever like this, with so many world leaders standing around smiling about it. It probably is just politicial and economical, but it sure looks ominous after reading this site for so long...

reply to post by pause4thought


Yes the quiet rhetoric has long been standard, today however it seems to be all coming together under the many guise...

G20 -Gordon Brown: A NEW WORLD ORDER Is Being Born!!!

London, 2 Apr. - From the G20 in London, a "new world order" is emerging. So announced the British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, to a press conference. "First of all, for the first time, we have together fixed the principles for a reform of the global banking system," Brown said, "This is a vast programme of measures which for the first time brings the shadow banking system, including hedge funds, within the network of global reglulation. We have agreed on the need to set international accountancy standards, we shall set rules for the rating agencies to eliminate conflicts of interest; we have arrived at an agreement to put an end to tax havens which do not supply information upon request. This is the beginning of the end for tax havens".

Gordon Brown Prays for New World Order

www.agi.it...

reply to post by Techsnow


No not exactly socialist but headed there by nationalizing all the banks, GM, AIG, Freddy and Fannie, etc. we are headed there in a hurry.

You can say Capitalists are the problem. It is not.

Our leaders, especially Paulson and banking CEO’s made very poor choices. This is what caused our Capitalist system to fail.

We were all taught to spend, spend, spend. Only the wise ones saved. If government kept their noses out of it and let the bad companies fail.

History has proven a bounce back when the smart money returns to pick up the pieces.

You are right I don’t own my business, however I do not want to be owned, controlled or regulated by a bunch of G20 idiots.

Okay, for all those who have been quick to start screaming about how this is a such a terrible thing,

Take a closer look at some of the things Gordon Brown is saying:

"reform the global banking system"
"for the first time, bringing the SHADOW BANKING SYSTEM, INCLUDING HEDGE FUNDS, within the global regulatory net"
"international accounting standards"
"end to offshore tax havens"
"end to banking secrecy"
etc etc

Could it be, that the G20 have actually come to some kind of agreement on dealing with the $600 - 1500 Trillion DERIVATIVES BLACK HOLE?

Perhaps they have finally decided to stand up to the "House of Rothschild/Rockefeller"/Illuminati/NWO/Federal Reserve Board/JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup etc international crime syndicate?

BTW, that was a very neat trick, for the House of Rothschild/Rockefeller etc, who are really the OLD WORLD ORDER, the world order who have ALREADY been in power for at least the past few hundred years, to completely and totally associate themselves with the phrase "NEW WORLD ORDER".

Thus anyone who comes along and tries to talk about a LEGITIMATE "New World Order", an actual fair and transparent world government - is instantly DEMONIZED by the truther/patriot community!!

"Look, he said 'New World Order'! EVIL!! EVIL!! I can't believe it's finally happening!! Bastards!!" etc etc.

I say, keep your minds open. I think the tremendous significance of the "G8" transforming into the "G20" almost overnight was lost on a lot of people. Those extra 12 countries finally having an actual say in world affairs can only be a good thing IMHO!

reply to post by pause4thought


What about this one. It's more GLOOMY?

So what we get sold out by our elected leaders.

It's merely a kick to the shins not the groin. Are we Americans or what?

Cowards like Eric Holder said? Afraid of spooks in the shadows?

Talk the doom and gloom, but only to understand that it's a possibility. More so now than ever.

We have Tea Parties to attend and show the rest of the world that we are Americans. Every color and religion.

I'm not giving up; they can have their SDR's. Obama sold us out to the elite but that doesn't mean I'm powerless.

They can only kill me once.

Originally posted by wonderworld
reply to post by Techsnow

 

No not exactly socialist but headed there by nationalizing all the banks, GM, AIG, Freddy and Fannie, etc. we are headed there in a hurry.

You can say Capitalists are the problem. It is not.

Our leaders, especially Paulson and banking CEO’s made very poor choices. This is what caused our Capitalist system to fail.

We were all taught to spend, spend, spend. Only the wise ones saved. If government kept their noses out of it and let the bad companies fail.

History has proven a bounce back when the smart money returns to pick up the pieces.

You are right I don’t own my business, however I do not want to be owned, controlled or regulated by a bunch of G20 idiots.

See here in lies the problem. You aren't looking at the big picture. Right now things aren't so bad with capitalism in the U.S. because we are a wealthy nation, but I don't believe that you have looked at other poorer nations to see what affects capitalism has had on them. China is a good example of capitalism with no social checks and balances. In China, unlike in America, as it struggles to compete in the global market, working conditions are not set so well. I'm sure you know that though.

The reason things are happening right now can not be pinned on one person or one thing, its a much larger picture than that. It's the hoarding of wealth that has created this whole mess.

The reason that the country and the world has been inflated is because countries have had to keep creating money so that workers can work and owners can horde. The printing of more money was done simply for the fact of balancing out workers ability to make a living and now it is all crashing b/c of the inflation that was originally done for a good reason.

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I have no sources for all of this information, but these are the notes I took just early this morning scanning the news.

-Global Financial Institue, It was brought up multiple times ive never heard of it before, anyone know anything about this?
-Fema Is predicting severe wildfires for this summer in CA, and are ready for handling civilian evacuations, and placement.
-Asian markets soared.
-So far over 100 people arrested in London.
-"Gordon Brown and Obama are confident on plan for GLOBAL recovery.
-Speaking of Global, I heard Global Economy muttered by reporters 58 times in under an hour, they are so blatant as to announce this. My girlfriend and dad, were asking me how I knew that that would end up being the focus. Haha, thanks guys.
Global Coordination to produce over 20 million jobs.
-At one point I want to say it was on MSNBC, one of the reporters even went so far as to say "Well Obama is the president of the world..."
-I'd like to see the dinner seating for the summit, apparently It can be found online, I can't find it, but a newscaster commented on it. It would be interesting to see who all was buddy buddy behind closed doors.
-Alliance For Cimate Protection(ACP), again never heard of this one before.
-Banks closed in London today? Not to sure about this one, but I'm 100% sure it was SAID at some point.
-And Obama gave the queen an ipod, with a groovy music mix.

Like I said, I hate that I have no sources, but I had pulled an allnighter, and was pretty much drunk by the end of the first hour and a half of notetaking.

I'd really like to see some discussion on some of these point that just struckout at me.

Originally posted by LactoseIntolerant

Originally posted by wonderworld
reply to post by LactoseIntolerant

 

This created Trillion is simply invisable ""credits"" all done electronically to transfer credits from one bank to the other, slap them on a coded debit card and problem solved.


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So it IS out of thin air? I'm guessing rich countries are exempt from a credit rating (especially our's since we have, what, TRILLIONS of dollars in debt already?). #, I wish I could have the luxury. Invisible credit? Sounds made-up to me.

It has been a debit based system for a few decades now , the money IS pratically really made out of THIN AIR. Money backed by debt , yes it sounds ridiculous and most of the countries accepted this ridiculous system (probably got bribed/threatened to accept) , obviously not leaving the way it works easily available to the public.

All they ever say is "the international debt" , anything beyond that you will hardly ever find information about.

This link www.financialsense.com...
has been posted in another thread , it is a long read , but should get you to understand how it works.

It does not matter "how made up" it sounds to you , it is reality.

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Needs sprucing up a bit. How about a coffin in every gap?

LOL here is the change we all asked for..the NWO, they went ahead and said it. Everyone's economy is in the tank and these greedy sobs think the best solution is to integrate it all? Why? By the time i get a loan on it, it would have been stomped on harder than whats comin out of colombia!

The only winners are those in the position to capitalize everyone else is hurtin, much less if you have a small country with a growing economy. These guys want to FORCE you to take a loan out from one of their corps to create an infrastructure you don't need, that's what we've been trying to do to Venezuela

PLEASE ignor. I meant this to go on a different thread OOPS! Sorry!

UFO sightings around the globe are becoming almost routine fare. Pilots, prime ministers, presidents and just plain people report seeing spectacular light shows, moving apparently with directed intelligence throughout the night skies Earthquakes are being reported at an exponentially growing rate.




My main point about Aliens is only a theory, as to how the government plans to answer the question "Where did all the Christians vanish to?"

Was there a Biblical Rapture or an Alien Abduction?

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reply to post by Techsnow


China is not capitalist.

If you want a good example of "unchecked" capitalism check out India under the rule of the East India Company and its mercenary armies from 1757 to 1858.

reply to post by MajorDisaster


Gordon Brown is, more than any politician on the planet, a NWO cheerleader, Just about every second breath out of his mouth carries with it the phrase "new world order."

What did he do today, even before the ink was dry on the G20 agreement? He ran off to St Paul's Cathedral to baptize the infant, sermonizing that the NWO was a religious and moral imperative. He wrapped it up in glad rags of multi-culti feel-good political drivel and even managed to link it to Zulu morality. Zulu morality? The warrior tribe of southern Africa? Well, hello! Don't you think you're being had when that dour pencil-pusher gets up and exhorts you to join a moral movement?

The picture 44soulslayer posted a few pages back says it all. The G20 "leaders" all lined up and smiling before a dark globe, with feel-good slogan pasted over it.

CDS's, offshore accounts, and all the rest of the dark side of global finance served the money masters well in concentrating wealth and indebting the US particularly,. But don't be naive and think it was only unscrupulous businessmen that were taking advantage of those loopholes--its pretty clear that the Fed and the major banks were using Caribbean offshore banks to manipulate the treasury markets for several years now.

The primary abuser of all these loopholes was the US, privately and through various state organs, and if anything this NWO is a way of reigning in the US's control of world finance and its manipulative tools. SDR will doubtless be a big part of this, and signals the end of the dollar as the world reserve currency. We're being shunted aside, hopelessly corrupt bankrupts, and a new layer of control is being instituted by a new world oligarchy.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.



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reply to post by pause4thought


Yes, it does look like the Grim Reaper just showed up. It wouldnt be too popular of a flag. I still like this one.




I guess you could call me a Christian with an Attitude.

Ive tried to fight this NWO stuff. I think we all feel trampled on and more or less helpless and angry at this point.

Our rights are being infringed upon, without our say so.

I just did a search off Australian newspaper.
No surprises here,,,looks like where boned too.

The Canberra Times
Sydney Morning Herald
Brisbane Courier Mail
The Adelaide Advertiser
The Hobart Mercury
The West Australian
Northern Territory News
and just for good measure
ABC News

I wonder what the New World Olympics will be like

reply to post by MajorDisaster

I say, keep your minds open. I think the tremendous significance of the "G8" transforming into the "G20" almost overnight was lost on a lot of people. Those extra 12 countries finally having an actual say in world affairs can only be a good thing IMHO!

Friend your observations and logic are 1st class. However methinks you have not read either of these 2 threads in which the OPs contain academic pdfs laying out the G20 plans in all their glory:

G20 2008 Plans

'Global New Deal' to Rescue World's Economy

Yes, there's a fair bit of reading. But if you really wish to know the reality it's well worth the effort.

Sadly the conclusion has to be that the measures you refer to are actually being taken to gain control so as to make global oversight/governance/government easier for whoever will eventually wield the power (I'll give you 1 guess) - as opposed to bringing control back to national institutions.