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Originally posted by jibeho
This new Tax Increase on the Poor and Middle Class should provide an economic boost to bootleggers and thieves. Hmmm... I wonder how long it will take for Urban Pirates to surface on the highways. They will target big rigs full of smokes and police escorts will have to accompany these trucks on their deliveries.
I guess Obama is creating jobs after all. "Pirate" the new career choice second only to "Windmill Rigger" on Monster.com.
Originally posted by sos37
Oh whatever. You can still go out and buy a pack or carton of your cancer sticks and smoke them in your own homes. What, are you mad because you can't go out in public and infect the rest of the population with your poison?
Tell you what - you come up with a way to contain that smoke that your cig puts out and I'll be all over supporting smokers out in public places. Until then, anyone who argues that second-hand smoke isn't dangerous is just denying decades of research and accepted science.
So yeah, if that makes me a smoking nazi, then I'm damn proud of it, sir!
Originally posted by Shadow_Lord
We are not being taxed without representation. Every state has a voice in the government. Every county has a voice in the state. If those people are not speaking for the general public, it is that person failing to do their job (seems common...).
One is a means of transportation and the other is a useless and destructive habit.
Originally posted by daersoulkeeper
reply to post by larphillips
yes its expensive, but hey at least its not illegal like marijuana...40 dollars for a carton is dirt cheap if you wanna compare how much marijuana is...second hand smoke lies? its not a lie how bad it is for you...if you really want to get into lies marijuana is teeming beyond capacity with them.... if its too expensive for you then just quit, whether it be marijuana, smoking, or even coffee none of these are good for you, they may make you feel good, but are not beneficial to your health, then again, alot of things are bad for you and your gonna die someday!
eh whatever, it may suck but imagine how much it sucks for someone in jail for mary jane.
By then, any satisfaction had by saying things like "watch what you wish for..." and "I told you so..." will be lost by the misery of losing 60+% of your wages to tax after tax after tax.
Originally posted by sos37
Ironies in your post:
1. If you're poor, then why are you spending money feeding a habit like smoking and not using that to feed yourself or your family? If you have extra money left over after your bills are paid then you aren't poor.
2. If you're poor and you insist on smoking, and there's absolutely no argument for the fact that cigarettes are bad for you, then why should the rest of the nation have to foot the bill (universal health care) for YOUR health care when the need arises and you can't pay it?
Originally posted by chise61
Since when is it your responsibility, or right to question what people do with their money? You're definition of being poor is just that, you're definition.
In case you haven't noticed the rest of the nation doesn't have to foot the bill, as we do NOT have universal health care in this country. Nobody has to foot the bill for smokers health care except for smokers, if the need arises they can foot the bill with the enormous amount of taxes that smokers pay.
Why should smokers have to foot the bill for the healthcare of OTHER people's children? You believe that "the nation" shouldn't have to pay for smokers healthcare (which i agree with), but you think it's fine to fine to force smokers to pay for healthcare for children that are not theirs, what hypocracy