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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Well that's one way to skin a cat. A cat that someone who bought the other two parties will pay top dollar for now that it's shaved and clean.
You are right, unless we address the underlying problem, even a third party will soon belong to the wealthy. But you cant even begin to address that underlying problem via the two parties we have now.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
We could make a one party system work quite well in fact, probably easier than a 20 party system, based on one thing.
Honesty, and integrity and oversight. We have to figure out a way our true principals will be adhered to. That's really the problem, the citizens tend to shirk some of their duties and responsibilites, and the elites tend to overstep theirs.
You are right again a one party system could work quite well, and I agree with your honesty and integrity, and oversight suggestions. But we dont need to figure out a way to do that, someone already has figured out how to set that system up. Plato did. And with some modernizing it could work very well. What is needed is a complete separation of leadership and material benefit.
There is no difference between the agenda of the parties, because like you say, they are owned by the same people. Bought and paid for. The whole two party thing just keeps us bickering and cheering on our "team" and when they fail us too, we just tell ourselves, "well its because of the other guys, they messed it up so bad my guys couldnt do better."
And even bright people cannot let go of the dream that their favorite party is going to ride in on a white horse and save them.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Americans Largely Silent as Their Nation is Systematically Destroyed
www.canadafreepress.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
After trillions in taxpayer debt has been foolishly poured into the bottomless black hole of leftist wealth redistribution programs, under the guise of economic “stimulus” or “stabilization” legislation, the new “ONE World” government running Washington DC announces; Geithner, Bernanke Call for New Wind-Down Powers After AIG… and the people still sit silent as they watch Obamanation grow in unbridled power.
Geithner Asks Congress for even Broader Power to Seize private Firms as the average American stumbles through their daily routine as if nothing is happening. Canada Free Press managing editor Judi McLeod writes No cheerleader for propping up greenback at G20 summit asking, “Is the table being set for One World Government rather than speeding the recovery of the worldwide recession at next week’s G20 London summit?”
Originally posted by JohnJetson
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
At some point politicians realized that all they needed to do to have their bill pass is to use as much high-level jargon as possible to confuse the American into submission.
99% of the US population doesn't understand all of these new deals/laws/plans whatever else they are being termed as. I'll bet 75% + of Americans on ATS don't fully understand them either. That is a large part of the problem.
And I think the average congressman is embarrassed to admit that he/she doesn't know wtf these bills are really trying to achieve either, so they just vote in favor of them.
Originally posted by arizonascott
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
The problem is everyone is just talking about all this stuff without acting. We can engage the enemy on our terms, or wait and have to face them on their terms.
They have taken our sovereignty - what is left to lose.
Are we all just going to wait until we lose our families and our own lives.
Complaining is like a rocking chair, it gives you something to do but gets you nowhere.
Remember: The Georgia Guidestones - 300,000,000
They are getting ready to depopulate the planet and get under that number.