Americans Largely Silent as Their Nation is Systematically Destroyed

reply to post by hezekiah

the dis-arming isn't gonna work especially if you know 'gangsters' in the ghetto

Yes it will.

There will be Some resistance and it will come from several places; militias, rural areas, farmers, loyal patriots, and yes the ghettos are very well armed. The problem is that except for some organized militias who have learned stratagies and have a command structure, everone else is disorganized. There would be some level of armed resistance but it will immediatly be vilified by the MSM to turn the masses against it (divide and conquer) and then relatively quickly squashed by the military (just plain conquer)

Relating this to the topic is that the stage is being set this latest "crisis" is just to ensure that the masses are kept in the line and dependent. People are so dependent and have such cavalier attitudes. I asked people at work who wanted the bailout(S), why? they answered I don't care the consequence just give me money..

People have such short attention spans they have already forgotten what just happened. think about this when you go back to it on Monday. Look around, especially, listen. It has disappeared. The stroke of a pen has put us into debt that we will be paying back for decades. And No one even remembers..

This is why America is silent.


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[edit on 3/27/2009 by AlienChaser]

It's sad really, knowing that most of your countrymen and women are still clueless or just don't care about whats going on. I try and warn people daily at work to prepare, and they look at me like I'm nuts. After all, if Gerald Celente is wrong, then what happens? Nothing, you have saved a bunch of money and will be better off for it.

I don't like sounding alarmist, but what else can you do? It sucks trying to help others, and all they do is give you the cold shoulder.

Originally posted by AlienChaser
Yes it will.

There will be Some resistance and it will come from several places; militias, rural areas, farmers, loyal patriots, and yes the ghettos are very well armed. The problem is that except for some organized militias who have learned stratagies and have a command structure, everone else is disorganized. There would be some level of armed resistance but it will immediatly be vilified by the MSM to turn the masses against it (divide and conquer) and then relatively quickly squashed by the military (just plain conquer)

Yes, but being disorganized isn't always a bad thing. Read this to see what I mean. It's 67 pages about how to fight secretly, which is most important. If you don't tell anyone what you're doing, no one can know. Organizing to fight a professional organized force can be done, but it will be a brutal, arduous, and drawn out fight.

Secret Freedom Fighter

We aint seen nothing yet. In Calif. SB-11 is the beginning of the end. long story short, an attorney (Richard Fine) is suing the Superior court for conflict of interest, and denial of due process. Everything is documented in court papers, but he was disbarred and jailed, without bail, or a lawyer, or a court date, last I heard he was still in there. Now, this SB-11 passed on feb. 14, or 15 2009, rushed through the state senate, signed by Arnold, on the books, states thet judges have full immunity, retroactive 12 years. Now, these conflict of interest cases are about these judges accepting money from the county, above their state salary. Problem is, they were hearing county cases, and ruling 99% in favor of the county. All documented in court filings. Racketeering is a serious crime, the entire state senate, gov. Arnold, and others are in trouble, if the DOJ ever does their job's. Local media wont touch it. Until it really breaks, right now all they have is a guy in jail. The reason is apparently not news worthy.
I'm still waiting on a reply from the ACLU, and FAUX news to an email I sent them. At least the ACLU responded that they were looking into it.

reply to post by The Savage Khan


to firstly be on target of the topic i will say this:"this is just me talking about me and how it is in my reality! i can not think of any solutions if i can not hear myself think". o also "if in my observations of human interactions are correct then when one pissess me off or starts attacking me i automatically shut my mouth and go into offense mode "going into hyper-sensitive mode paying attention to every sense i have to remove myself from harms way and one never knows what i will do till the one or ones that are perpratrating harm ect. f@#$@#'s themselves up! if i could explain what has happened to me since just 911 it would boggle most minds! now to respond to your post: i personally have worked with some most highly intelligent people with some very high iq's and none of them went to ivy leauge schools! so loose the snobry because that is what our nation is suffering from and probably most of the world leaders and nations at this time! tptb they know what they must do to achive their goal. while i still live i will continue doing what i know is right and continue that tomorrow if there is one for me. i condem nobody except myself if i so choose and i will let no
one condem me ever for i am in my beingness and harming nobody else but helping others. is there an answer! yes there is!
p.s. my observation is that tptb have started so many fires in the lives of the nation on a personal level and also the world that they must take the next action before there is recouperation on the individual level!
p.s.s the lines have been drawn and we are waiting for the tally as to which side of the line that everyone must go! i know that i have made the right decision for my being and i will live that decision out till the source of all life
of any and all created things or beings or gods with physical forms or anything that one can think rocks or what ever or what ever the f" it " is stops my brain,breath and blood.

reply to post by ludaChris


"I don't like sounding alarmist, but what else can you do? It sucks trying to help others, and all they do is give you the cold shoulder." i quote this to you!

so what is wrong with what your are doing? it might not be you that is wrong!
hey man my alarm clock doesn't wake me up till it wakes me up! it continues till i get up and shut it off! if the alarm clock does not wake me up then i simply change tones or simply add a tone till i get the result needed to wake me! keep helping others anyway cause that's what you do anyway! right? be your part to the best of ones ability! keep going. on to the next and then the next ect. the seeds must be sown though! this is all so to speak till it finds fertile soil! don't try to be the sun though because that is a lot of responsibility.there will be some pricks along the way, but let it grow and bamm you get to pick the fruit when ripe! weed if need!
keep on keeping on!

Originally posted by jam321
SSSSHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!


Please do not disturb the sleeping Giant.

I trust my fellow Americans in that we will step up when the time is right.

That time has yet to arrive but could come at any moment.

Thank you for your service to OUR country!

I completely agree with you. People are getting angry. People are working against this evil. We have our people in Congress, believe it or not. Love Michelle Bachman. The Tax Day Tea Parties are going to be awesome! I am so excited to be able to participate!

By the way, you can our "puppet" Obama at his MySpace or Facebook pages! Hope I can say that!

Stand up for our United States of America. It's like love her or leave her! I feel so blessed to have been born in this country! Let's take her back!!

reply to post by AlienChaser


"There would be some level of armed resistance but it will immediatly be vilified by the MSM to turn the masses against it (divide and conquer) and then relatively quickly squashed by the military (just plain conquer)"

The first objective of a militia-type movement is to knock-out, control the media outlets. Not so hard to do as you'd think.

You guys sound like neo nut cases. Sorry, what about the last president and his gaffes. You have all but forgotten about that. The only reason some of you feel so strong is race. Whether you want to admit it on the board or not, the neos have there panties in a bunch.

reply to post by greysave
(I know what you mean about the last prez)
Thank you for your posts everyone!!! I agree with ALL of you!

As we should all know by now, both administrations have been hell bent
on promoting a one world gubmint. Or so it seems.
It is not a left/right issue anymore.
There is always the trillion dollar bailout wake up call!

The sooner we all get this straight, the better chance we have
of actually getting through this in one piece. God speed to that.

Ah, living in the land of the greed, home of the 'fraid!



[edit on 28-3-2009 by dodadoom]

I believe that Bush layed the foundation to make Revolting impossible with his terror legislation. America should of revolted 8 years ago but everyone was jumping on the bandwaggon. Its to late now since any patriots who revolt are labeled as terrorists.the definition of a terorist is ": the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion" and i think that it is B.S that they can label anybody who fights for their freedoms as a terrorist.
For a revoulution to work you need three things
1. Guns and ammo
2. A united people ( no sheeple) with a plan of action
3 the revoulution to be succesful other wise you will be prosecuted to the full extent of the "law".

Revoulutions are only legal if they succeed.
If Americans arent going to grow some balls then i have no sympathy.
When the SHTF you can find me deep in the Canadian wilderness.
Good Luck,Your gonna need it

reply to post by burndogg

I have wondered that myself.
Makes you wonder if he put the clamp on and now the screw is being turned...

Is that anywhere near FT. Nelson?
I have friends there.....
I miss Canada. Eh?

P.S. I remember in the eighties, cigs there were 4.50 a pack!

[edit on 28-3-2009 by dodadoom]

Originally posted by SailorinAZ
Liberals just amaze me. The facts right in front of you but you will always refuse to believe.

Now, to stay on topic, Americans are doing nothing to fight back for the most part because they can't. To fight back in anyway would put you on a #list and would be killed or imprisoned.

In addition, the U.S. population is:

1/4 liberal.

1/2 ignorant.

leaving only 1/4 who are either conservatives or not ignorant that would want to stop the direction we are headed.

Wow, I had no idea the entire population of the US could be broken down so rationally and simply...25% liberal....50% ignorant and 25% who are neither ignorant nor liberal.

Can you do a county by county breakdown?

Originally posted by epete22
That is not true one bit.

I agree do you people balev anything you here to there are allot of conspareses out there but just case the new pres is black and past the economic plan doesn’t mean his a josif stalin

and no
I Wight and voted for him

I admit that, like many, I was hoping that Obama would be the one to straighten out the government and improve our economy, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen. I am saddened by the things I read and hear in the news and other media these days. While most people have always been, and will always be, content to be sheep led by whoever is in charge, there comes a time when you have to stand up and say, "NO MORE!". How long are we going to sit idly by and watch our country going down the drain?

I didn't tell them to spend this money, did YOU?

Just because someone hands you a bill doesn't mean you're gonna pay it. Don't worry about these morons, America, God's still got His hand on the throttle.

I still want Pelosi for my love slave



ibgrimme

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Fascism is a form of Socialism. The policies are far-left, not right. Right wing policies would be 100% free market with as little government intervention as humanly possible. Seeing as the policies we see are polar opposites, it is safe to assume they are political opposites.

When you see "far left, leftist policies, etc" do not think "Democrat". Both Republicans and Democrats are Socialist in some form, in fact, without the Religious Social Conservative movement, almost all Republicans would be Democrats.

All US Economic policies have been leftist. Tis a fact.

I agree with the first part of your statement. Fascism is a form of Socialism, in which the Corporation is in full control of the infraestructure of a nation.

however, I disagree with your claim that Republicans are Democrats, by definition Democrat-Republicans is an oxymoron, because meanwhile in a Democracy "the mob rules' and can take away teh rights of any or all minorities if the mayority vtoes for it, a real Republican stands and represents the ideals of a Republic, which is what this nation is. We are in a Republic, and not in a Democracy,, even when the media, the politicians and almost all Americans can't see the difference because they ahve been indoctrinated to not see the difference.

In a Republic all law abiding people are represented, and not just the mayority.

A true Republican has no ideals from Socialism. By definition a Republic and a Socialist nation are entirely different.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

reply to post by Verd_Vhett


I agree with you. Most Americans have been conditioned into believing that "change" by itself is good, when change can also be for the worst, and that is what is happening to us.

Every mother, and father, uncle, and aunt, and every relative should ask for their families to get together, and for them to read together the living documents which are the foundation of this nation.

Children should be taught by their parents the history of this Republic, before it is forever erased.

President Obama himself has said that we need a Declaration of Independence, and his supporters were still applauding like brainwashed children who just applaud because they believe their saviour can do them no harm, meanwhile in fact he is deleting their history, and implementing more draconian laws which shouldn't be part of the Republic.

The process in which President Obama was elected, is exaclty how a true Democracy works. Even thou it does not truly mean that those who voted in favour for President Obama represent the entire nation, because only a percentage of people vote.

Out of 305 Million Americans, lets say half are children too young to vote, and yes, Americans who are too young shouldn't vote, and those who are not informed should either really inform themselves, or not vote at all.

Only about 10-15 million Americans vote, and most of the time less than that vote.

The Obama camp set out to brainwash yound adults that are able to vote. They went to Universities and high Schools looking for those Americans that could vote, and brainwashed them into believing that the "change" was for good, even thou most of these brainwashed young adults probably did not even ask what kind of change it would be.

Everyone could read in Obama's websites all the plans he, and his administration have, which included making Mandatory for all junior High students through High School students to provide not only Community Service, but that all these children will be indoctrinated into what the Obama camp wants them to think, and how to act.

We now have a learn-based program which eliminates all other learn-based programs, as well as volunteer, and Mandatory programs, in which the Corporation is in total control and has the power to indcotrinate children, and young adults, and even professors to follow the party line or else.

Programs like this exist in Communist dictatorships. Children who are taught differently by their parents and which contradicts the will of TPTB are taken away from parents and indoctrinated to follow the party line no matter what.

Americans should have listened when Obama's wife herself stated that President Obama would be the first American President that was neither a Republican, or a Democrat. But the followers of President Obama were brainwashed, and blind. They were the "mob that rules", or in this case the mayority of those Americans that voted, which it does not mean it represents all Americans.

This is what a Democracy is, which is not what this Republic was founded to be.


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Anthony Sherman wrote:

You doubtless heard the story of Washington's going to the thicket to pray in secret for aid and comfort from God, the interposition of whose Divine Providence brought us safely through the darkest days of tribulation. One day, I remember it well, when the chilly winds whistled through the leafless trees, though the sky was cloudless and the sun shown brightly, he remained in his quarters nearly all the afternoon alone. When he came out, I noticed that his face was a shade paler than usual. There seemed to be something on his mind of more than ordinary importance. Returning just after dusk, he dispatched an orderly to the quarters who was presently in attendance. After a preliminary conversation of about an hour, Washington, gazing upon his companion with that strange look of dignity which he alone commanded, related the event that occurred that day.

"George Washington's Vision"
This afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something seemed to disturb me. Looking up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful female. So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of her presence. A second, a third and even a fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of her eyes.

By this time I felt strange sensations spreading through me. I would have risen but the riveted gaze of the being before me rendered volition impossible. I assayed once more to address her, but my tongue had become useless, as though it had become paralyzed.

A new influence, mysterious, potent, irresistible, took possession of me. All I could do was to gaze steadily, vacantly at my unknown visitor. Gradually the surrounding atmosphere seemed as if it had become filled with sensations, and luminous. Everything about me seemed to rarefy, the mysterious visitor herself becoming more airy and yet more distinct to my sight than before. I now began to feel as one dying, or rather to experience the sensations which I have sometimes imagined accompany dissolution. I did not think, I did not reason, I did not move; all were alike impossible. I was only conscious of gazing fixedly, vacantly at my companion.

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Presently I heard a voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn,' while at the same time my visitor extended her arm eastwardly, I now beheld a heavy white vapor at some distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I looked upon a stranger scene. Before me lay spread out in one vast plain all the countries of the world — Europe, Asia, Africa and America. I saw rolling and tossing between Europe and America the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America lay the Pacific.

"Son of the Republic," said the same mysterious voice as before, "look and learn." At that moment I beheld a dark, shadowy being, like an angel, standing or rather floating in mid-air, between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand, while with his left hand he cast some on Europe. Immediately a cloud raised from these countries, and joined in mid-ocean. For a while it remained stationary, and then moved slowly westward, until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.

A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean, and sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back to the ocean, in whose heaving billows in sank from view. A third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn," I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted with them.

Again, I heard the mysterious voice say, "Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn." At this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from Africa I saw an ill omened specter approach our land. It flitted slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking I saw a bright angel, on whose brow rested a crown of light, on which was traced the word "Union," bearing the American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and said, "Remember ye are brethren." Instantly, the inhabitants, casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.

"And again I heard the mysterious voice saying "Son of the Republic, look and learn." At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene: From each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. Throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America. Our country was enveloped in this volume of cloud, and I saw these vast armies devastate the whole county and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up. As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of sword, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I heard again the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn" When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast. "Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word Union, and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were will nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle.

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