Originally posted by esteay812
I can "get out", I have written about my experiences on ATS in the "gray area". I am able to do this, more often as I practice meditation, about
twice a month. Sometimes more and sometimes less often, but I have done this for years before I knew what was actually happening.
Okay, I read your thread as linked and it sounds like these are very personal but also fascinating experiences for you, and certainly also for others
to read about.
I can achieve lucidity and I have pressed against the membrane of astrally projecting but I feel very anchored in this world and I feel that
projection won't resolve the larger lessons. That must be done eye-to-eye with our fellow humans. Still, I've been thinking more about wanting to
fly around out of body like others talk about. Sounds fun!
But one key reason that I believe in this though I haven't yet gotten out, is because of the sheer humbleness and dirt-like meekness of some of the
people from whom I have coaxed out the truth that yes, they can fly outside their bodies. People who will not say a word one way or the other, have
told me, straight up that yes, they can do this. So if humble and unassuming people tell me this stuff, then I think to myself, "They must be
confessing something as if I have the answer." ...I do not. I believe them, but I don't know what it's all about.
I feel that there is more benefit in being "stupid", rather than being so irrationally curious about the "other side". What do I hope to find
there? Why would I do a ceremony or try real hard or give myself to a guru or whatever just to gain another teaspoon-full of golden light from
"God"? I find that just sitting out in nature is the most fascinating thing one can do. One cannot sit in nature, quietly, and see the animals
come up out of the surroundings, and not feel healed. To me, that experience will always be superior to whatever I may feel when I "get out".
But from my perspective I'd say the whole lucid/astral proj/remote viewing sector of knowledge is like the blind men feeling the various parts of an
elephant. One holds the trunk and says I know what it is. Others hold the leg or the tail, the ear and so on. I have felt dream-lucidity and
marvelled at it. So lets say that I pressed my hand against the side of the elephant for a moment. Well, in that case I felt a heartbeat that made
me not want to go any farther at this time. I am very happy to live in the flesh, my only complaint is the material inequality which is so pronounced
on Earth. I fail to see how even the Pharaoh projecting himself astrally could have helped the famines which ravaged Egypt. So if we are to ponder
the wonders of the Ark and the Pyramids, let's never forget that whole scores of families died in Egypt, over and over, at certain times, because of
the simple fact that their fleshly bellies (not their astral ones) were empty.
That is why I enjoy the story of Joseph in the bible and how he has the power to store up grain for Egypt to endure the famine. Pharaoh, by giving
the power to Joseph, saved his people from starving. The bible doesn't mention AP and I think that's perhaps because it's veiled and very much
lo-tech with regard to the occult or what most people might call "Egyptology". Jacob does wrestle with an angel and sees angels going up and down,
so maybe he either was shrooming or projecting astrally.
the technology to put one on a blade would seem to be more than one to move a very large stone into position, thousands of times.
I agree. It's hard to calculate which is harder, though in reality we must answer that nanotech is so far superior to stone-tech or lifting devices
like pulleys. But to imagine the Giza plateau with fully limestone exteriors and smoothly glistening in the sun like, well, blinding sources of
light... It is impressive in the minds eye, no doubt. It would be hard not to see Egypt as a jewel if the pyramids were shining and polished like
they must have been.
It seems that working in stone, requires a certain craft. That much is true. Stone if not worked correctly, will crack and the desired shape is
lost. Now around the time of the Ark, and toward the final days of Egypt, there was said to be a first temple, which was built by Solomon. Certainly
he would have needed stone cutters and masons.
So I would encourage you to do two things: First, why not try to fly to Jerusalem and dig your astral self down into the dirt and see if you can find
the first temple which Solomon built. Find out what's under the temple mount (now throwing this open to all APer's out there) and then come back
here and describe what you saw. I mention the nanotech because you need to think in 1000x times smaller scale to be able to compete with
archaelogists as to what you are seeing/feeling when you fly under the temple mount to find the date and layout of Solomon's first temple. Or any
historical data pertaining to Solomon would help.
The second thing would be for me to ask you to describe where you want to go from here? Now you are sharing your experiences and you've explained
that you have super-human abilities (I believe AP and RV to be such) and so now what? Let's say you are a patriot, then wouldn't you use AP to
check out world events from that higher perspective? Or even try and solve a cold case file in your own county? Hell that has to happen more than is
reported, if AP is true, right?
How come no US counties are polling their constituencies to find AP and RVers and m,obilize them for cold case or maybe even pre-cognitive fact
finding? I am seriously asking why this doesn't happen.