I don't think you are taking this concept far enough. What is often not known by even the males is that it is the women in the more economically
affluent economies/nations who determine where when and how most of the moneys are spent. Particularly on big ticket items. Homes, cars, washers,
driers, furniture, food..et al etc etc etc. This is seldom determined by the male but the female. The males are mostly relegated to the back seat role
of taking the risks to support such a system of consumption rates.
This has gotten so bad now days that the male is taking a back seat to his children and coming in third place or further down the line ..last
The primary consumers and determiners of economics in this affluent country are women and children..not the male. This also means by such patterns
that the important vote at election time is the female and or the children when they come of age...18...not the male or the ones taking the greatest
risk to keep such a system going and or afloat.
Factor in this type of thinking and see what kind of picture you now get when you look at a credit crunch.
Remember also Rockpuck ..that there is today a new generation of males...males not men..who like many women define themselves by what they can
consume..not by what they know or can do. What they expect of others..not of themselves. This is very feminine. They become competition for these
women ..not men. They are high maintenance.
This high maintenance consumer oriented credit system has become the norm in many economically affluent social structures. Unfortunately most do not
realize how high maintenance it is. Male and female.
To some ..in these social structures we now see that it has become an entitlement. This is false thinking but expedient for political
purposes...ie..votes. This is also why so many administrations for office are security oriented..not opportunity oriented..no matter what party they
claim...it is about votes.
This will probably change here shortly with a severe credit crunch. You know...musical chairs and such. The question for some of us thinking ..is who
is willing to work and risk for the remaining chairs ...and who will get them by default/entitlement....ie...for votes. Remember this as we
watch/listen to events transpiring in the future.
Originally posted by white wave
Perhaps this time we should fire all the men and let them stay home with the kids, clean house, cook the meals, etc. ad infinitum. This will free up
the work force to accept women into "useful" positions like firefighting and arresting people.
Good luck with this one, Rock Puck. LOL. You may have bitten off more than you can chew.
I agree..we should fire all the men and replace them with women so that men can assume the traditional female roles and complain about their
"victimization." The men should stay home with the children while the women go out and sustain severe risk to keep the system going at great
risks/danger to their very souls and physical persons in the manner that men have traditionally done.
Hey Whitewave, If this happens will we see a change in the television programming formats to male oriented programming?? What will replace the DNA
test..the lie detector test?? How about talk radio?? How about the commercial formats?? Will this be the end of the DeBeers commerical??
I know today's enlightened woman cannot wait to give up all the social perks they take so for granted and assume traditional male roles to keep this
system going at great social and physical costs/risks to themselves.
It is a fair swap I think Whitewave. I know that today's enlightened women believe in this much equality. Don't you??
I cant wait to take a lie detector test or a DNA test on this one Whitewave.
I also know that women cant wait to be the breadwinner and then turn over to their men ..the ability to determine what kind of homes, cars, furniture,
insurance policies, vacations, washers, driers, food..etc etc on which the moneys are spent. The big ticket items. I know lots of women who would
love this scenario..don't you???
There are millions upon millions of women out here who cannot wait to take risks with thier physical calling card...their beauty assets and sacrafice
this asset for the benifit of mankind..the future..et al by taking risks as fireman, police, soldiers..and under go the hardships and risks
associated with such disposability and expendability....as a career opporturnity...while turning over their moneys earned at great risks to the men
and children. Dont you?? Todays women do believe in this much equality right?? It is not just talk...right!!??
I believe I have stated ..though it has been awhile now..that if women were capable and in sufficient numbers available...they would be firing all the
men and replacing them with women since it is so obvious that women work for less wages than do men. Do we see this happening across the board?? Are
the women in fact willing to do this for mankind?
I am not debating the point that women do not take risks...I am debating the point ..do women take risks outside of a particular social role..a
A concept taken for granted?? Socially. Will they in fact do this for the man as a career..in the manner the men have traditionally done??
This is what you are describing in your flip flop?? Or are you describing ..that women are willing to do this in a spirit of equality but not lose
their femininity in the process?? I dont think most of the women I know would be willing to do this. Particularly for a man. They might do it for
children..but not for a man.
I am also making the point that socially and politically..ie...economically there is a system in play which factors in this belief system ..that the
female is the prime determiner..of economics/credit..not the male. Therefore it is the female who must be politically sold for her vote..along with
the other high maintenance consumers...children of voting age.
It is these people who must be sold for the security status of the political systems ie..economic systems in play.....not the males.
I also think that in the future ..with consumer oriented trends and education standards ...that women may not be willing to do this for children as
well ..verses consumer orientatioin values and thinking beliefs.
I see this more and more with alarm..women without any mothering and nuturing instincts..but great consumer instincts. Males too but really noticabale
among the females.
Well Whitewave..I am rambling somewhat .but I think you know the point I am making here better than most of the others.
Thanks to all for their posts,
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