Someone Please Explain To Me - The Theory that Jupiter Ignited - while behind the Sun right now, page 8
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 09:32 AM by InfaRedMan
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I'm interested in seeing current images of Jupiter NGC. Simply so we can put this debacle to rest once and for all... and to clarify the truth to those that may be sitting on the fence.

Post those pictures and the 'Ignited Jupiter' theory is a dead horse. Let's see who wishes to flog it after that!

IRM


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 09:47 AM by ngchunter
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Alright. I'll get a shot of Jupiter tomorrow morning then. If there are any takers who doubt that Jupiter is still just a planet and unharmed, and if I have the bandwidth left over from my broadcast planned for this evening at 7, I'll do a live webcast. Otherwise, I'll just get a still shot and post it tomorrow.



reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 09:52 AM by griffinrl
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Yes please post a pic NGC. I can't get my scope on Jupiter due to the trees around my place. I've been swinging the chainsaw for the past 3 days and I don't have the energy to tote my rig out tonight

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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 09:53 AM by Anonymous ATS
Listen, people, this whole Jupiter igniting thing started with a CHANNELLED (telepathically received) message by Candace Frieze. She has a website AbundantHope.net and she's been giving these 'Jupiter will ignite' messages since 2007. She's got a few devout followers who keep on believing her 'channelled' messages, although none of them ever has had anything for real. The messages are 'spiritual' and largely based on her belief in the Book of Urantia.

So this same thing has been going on since spring 2007 and Candace Frieze has been giving messages about Jupiter igniting over and over. Nothing has ever happened. She claims to be in contact with a spirit called Christ Michael who she believes is the creator of this universe.

You can find her similar promises/channellings in the site 2012unlimited.net, in 'updates/NESARA' section when you scroll down. Look for instance "Jupiter NOT waiting until late December" channelled in November 2007.

And her message that started this same old nonsense this time was called We Have Our Glorious New Sun, that can be found at
abundanthope.net...

So the thing is, she believes it was Christ Michael who ignited Jupiter as has been promised to her. Nothing about Galileo-satellite or nuclears in there but spiritual beliefs instead. For some reason that I have no idea of, she has this obsession with Jupiter becoming the second sun and that being a very good thing for planet earth and its inhabitants. So fear not, people, even if you believe her stuff

But, as I already stated NOTHING in her telepathically received messages has ever come true. So fear not.


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 09:54 AM by bpg131313
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Here's a question for you, being that you claim to know so much on this subject. I'm being completely sincere here when I ask you this, what is the smallest known star we've discovered? I'm aware that not all stars are the same. They are different sizes and different kinds. So I'm curious to know what the smallest star is that we've discovered. Do you know? Can you provide a link to educate us all? If anything, this thread will give us all a reason to learn more about stars and their various types and sizes.

Thanks in advance.


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 09:58 AM by Chadwickus
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google is your friend!

www.spaceref.com...

The smallest Brown dwarf yet discovered has been observed by astronomers at the European Southern Observatory (ESO). Brown dwarfs are bodies smaller than our sun but many times the size of Jupiter and are often referred to as "failed suns" inasmuch as there was not enough matter present during their formation so as to initiate hydrogen fusion. Yet, at the same time, these objects are much more massive than Jupiter and produce energy as the result of gravity- induced contraction. The brown dwarf discovered by ESO, known as TWA-5 B, has a mass of between 15 - 40 times that of Jupiter which places it near the borderline between planets and brown dwarfs.


Even the smallest known star (if you can call it that) is many times bigger than Jupiter






reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 09:59 AM by griffinrl
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I'm no expert myself but I do own a number of telescopes and CCD cameras. Jupiter was a prime candidate for ignition if it's internal pressures had climbed high enough. NGC is a heck of alot more experienced than I am...check out his avatar. The ISS is a heck of a hard target to image. I definately have a ton of respect for that shot!


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 10:04 AM by InfaRedMan
Originally posted by griffinrl
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The ISS is a heck of a hard target to image. I definitely have a ton of respect for that shot!


Hear Hear! Awesome pic indeed!

IRM


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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 10:14 AM by ngchunter
Originally posted by InfaRedMan
Originally posted by griffinrl
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The ISS is a heck of a hard target to image. I definitely have a ton of respect for that shot!


Hear Hear! Awesome pic indeed!

Wow, well thanks guys. I'll try my best to get a shot of Jupiter tomorrow morning. Here's hoping I can get it over the treetops before sunrise. I have a small lake to my east though, so it shouldn't be a problem.


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 10:19 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Dear confused- This is not a new theory. The book- 2001-a Space oddysey-Arthur c. Clarke. This a fascinating book, with conjecture for the future of the chosen ones. The climax of the book is when Jupiter ignites itself. with help form the monoliths. Another sign to satanists that their king is arriving soon.(not Jesus) I do like your curiosity, at trying to get info, and, then to have the gumption to comprehend what is shown.Secret- The satanists believe in their god, as much, if not more, than the believers in the real God. The church has dumbed-down the congregation to what God is doing, and what He wants from us- his children. Not everyone is His child-it is by their doing( rejecting God), not by God.


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 10:24 AM by griffinrl
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NGC this is off topic but when you get a chance PM me and give me a breakdown on your gear. At your convenience please


reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 10:26 AM by ablue07
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I agree about the attack attitude. People having to advertise how much they think they know at the expense of others all in all its pretty lame. It's just amazing in a bad way. So I can just leave and I will. Thanks for the post though.



reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 10:30 AM by bpg131313
Originally posted by InfaRedMan
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[snip] I did google the question I asked, and wasn't able to find the ESO info on the smallest brown dwarf. As for this thread being about Jupiter turning into a star, the OP used the word "ignited". Having a huge hydrogen filled gas giant ignite isn't close to becoming a star. One is pyrolysis, one is fusion. They aren't even in the same ballpark. Just because someone chose to suggest that Jupiter was becoming a star rather than igniting, doesn't mean I suggested it, [snip]
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 10:34 AM by questioningall
Originally posted by ablue07
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I agree about the attack attitude. People having to advertise how much they think they know at the expense of others all in all its pretty lame. It's just amazing in a bad way. So I can just leave and I will. Thanks for the post though.


I have found it interesting, how people have come in to completely ridicule the thread and discussion.....

yet if they read.................... due to my seeing so many "Jupiter ignited" sites over the last few days.......... it is asking about possiblities and science behind that theory.......

At NO POINT does the thready say Jupiter Ignited - -- it asks where could that theory come from.

So - others are just coming in, trying to ridicule ANYONE who says - yes there is some basis of science that says.... Jupiter could ignite........... due to the gases of it..............

People are not willing to have a "civil" debate on the subject.... only hard lines or ridicule................... I find that interesting............. and wonder why.

I would think if there were "real" scientist or knowledgable people about this subject................. they would be in here.............. posting in a reasonable manner and a civil manner..................... not in an attack manner..........

It seems also, the thread is trying to get hijacked as simply a " ridiculous thread" - where it is not................. it is a discussion thread of possiblities.

So, I will continue with trying to find information on this subject.............. and the fact that there WAS some type of explosions from Jupiter that is seen --------------- and then corresponding explosion seen from in front of the sun................. it seems there IS SOMETHING GOING ON........
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