posted on Jan, 30 2009 @ 09:09 PM
spy66: That isn't what it says at all. And the evening and the morning means that a amount of time passed and it was the next day. My Bible clearly
states that it was on the 6th day. As far as Adams creation story and the 7 days creation, I have a firm belief that there were other male and female
people at the time that God created Adam so in my taking of it I could accred the story to only including Adams story. As far as the Tree of Knowledge
goes, it was knowledge of what was good and what was evil. The tree itself wasn't evil, the act of eating from it was. "But of the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." And he did. When Adam and Eve ate of
the tree they were cast out of Eaden and became mortal, their life clock started ticking to their death. The tree didn't do it to them, God did.
(I'm doing this bit by bit so bear with me here)
"The servant is clearly declared... Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified. Israel also was declared the Son of G.d in Hosea
Um, I'm confused as to where this ties into anything you quoted? Uh, yes, the children of Israel were Gods servants. I don't think anybody denies
that but they are not his only begotten son. I'm trying to figure out your point of view as to why you brought this up at all. You are saying Jesus
does not = Israel. That's correct but that doesn't mean that Jesus wasn't his son. That doesn't even make sense as far as arguments go. Edit to
add - I think I see where you are coming from now looking back at this and the webpage from the OP.
Hosea 11:1 (KJV) "When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt."
First of all Hosea 11 is speaking on "God's ungrateful child" if you continue reading it you'll see the whole story but Hosea 11:1 is him
referring to the freeing of the children of Israel. I'm confused as to what your point is.. alot of the versus you point out he is referring to the
children of Israel, which are his children. Nobody said that was referring to Jesus so... that's just kind of random in your posts. Nobody denies
that Jews are Gods children. However Jesus' coming is prophesied in the Old Testament many, many, many, many, times. And Isaiah 53 describes
that exactly.. In fact one could say the entire 53rd chapter is a prophecy based around him and that was what the OP quoted from.
Here's a few other examples of Jesus prophecies in the OT.
Regarding Jesus’ birth: Isaiah 7:14, “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son,
and will call him Immanuel.” Isaiah 9:6, “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he
will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” Micah 5:2, “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are
small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from everlasting."
Regarding Jesus' death... Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and
of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in
bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness his his firstborn." (remember this is a prophecy for the future of the house of David.) on to
Zechariah 13:1 (another prophecy) "In that say there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and
for uncleaness." If you need more affirmation that this is in fact Jesus then just keep reading. We can go straight to 13:6 "And one shall say unto
him, What are those wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those which I was wounded in the house of my friends." Also a prophecy. Then we can
go to Daniel and the seventy sevens prophecy. Psalms 2 is all prophecy about him uhhh lets see... Proverbs 30:4 (prophecy) "Who hath ascended up into
heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth?
what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?" Jeremiah 23:5-6 (NIV) "The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will
raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. 6 In his days Judah will be saved and
Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness.
And the list of prophecies about Jesus continues. I mean don't get me wrong, I am no expert but.. I mean.. I get a hint when I see one. Justamomma
send me a u2u and we can chat back and forth, I'd like to learn more about your point of view and where it is derived from. =)
[edit on 30-1-2009 by Boogley]