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Originally posted by TrueBrit
To the guy who mentioned the sacred dollar... CAPITALISTS ARE DIRT! Scum to be wiped from the shoes of honourable men.
Further more sir, its not possible for someone who is disgusted by corperate existance to escape the shackles of financial opression. Since only a poor man would be able to see the walls of such a prison, no one who enjoys that situation can possibly have any right to comment on thier plight. You ever tried emigrating with nothing to your name but the shirt on your back ? Only men and women from wartorn places on the earth have ever been able to acheive that.
I believe there are some posters on this site who wouldnt know hardship if it jumped up and danced on thier faces. I believe these types could use a short sharp wake up call... preferably golf club shapped and aplied to the skull.
Originally posted by 44soulslayer
reply to post by TrueBrit
Lo and behold. Witness the mind of the prisoner.
The idiom should read : None are so enslaved as those who resign themselves to it.
I've seen men pull themselves up from situations which you couldn't even dream of. You think anyone in the West suffers true hardship these days? Hah... only those who resign themselves and blame the system are enslaved.
The mighty and sage dance around the system and laugh at its pitiful attempt to control them. Those are the men whom you deride... those are the capitalists... the ones who see human nature for what it truly is, and who see the self-interest in their fellow prisoners eyes even once they are on the other side of the bars.
Originally posted by b3r6a8d8
So why dont you or someone else just say what kind of new "mind control" is being used on us!
The term "behavior modification" is usually reserved for psychological conditioning techniques which include "applied behavior analysis" and "behavior therapy." Behavior therapy deals with internal states such as fear and anxiety, as well as observable behavior. Applied behavior analysis, the child of psychologist B.F. Skinner, recognizes no such internal states and deals only with observable behavior, often in groups.
Originally posted by TheDarkHorse
In all do respect this is absolute drivel. I can appreciate a good metaphorical conundrum post as much as the next guy but in my opinion this one isn’t even that well thought out.
It’s like I’m a kid on the playground watching the fat kid commandeer the tube-slide because he thinks he’s entitled to it because he’s bigger than everyone else. I know that I could easily eviscerate him without so much as a second thought but realize it’s much more rewarding allowing him that moment of feeling important.
Originally posted by HugmyRek
OP is it: you are surrounded by (slang) idiots, and the only place you find like minds is on the NET?
Scholarly and inquisitive vs. the mass of common man, as observed, while surrounded by?
Among the strategies he listed were indeterminism (holding people for an indefinite time), rewards and punishments ("the brutal treatment of a few serves as an example and an incentive to the remainder"), and "breaking the spirit and will" through "degrading initiation ceremonies, isolation from social supports, and proving to inmates that they can be made to behave as robots in the most intimate parts of their lives."
Clemons suggested that behavioral scientists might best put their talents toward "constructing the type of environment that is an alternative to prison.
"Don't you notice there's something odd happening here?" he said. "Here are all these kind doctors offering people help and yet the very people they want to help are telling them they don't want it. Why are the recipients of the services against the donors of the services?"
The answer, said Breggin, is in the answer to the question "Whose agent are you?"
"Conflict only enters when the behavior modifier enters as the agent of the institution," Breggin said. "Whenever you have involuntary relationships you have an adversary system. The more involuntary the relations, the more adversarial the situation. In schools it's the child vs. the teacher. In a prison it's the prisoner against the administration. In a mental hospital the tension is nearly as great as in a concentration camp."
Breggin urged his medical brethren to refuse to be the agent of any coercive institution, and received loud applause. At lunch, he said: "I'm getting a lot of well-wishinq from my fellow professionals, but nobody has come up to me and said, 'Peter, I heard you and I'm breaking free.'"
As Dr. Rubin says, "Coercive programs which attempt to change attitude or behavior always fail unless you kill the prisoner, permanently disable him, or keep him incarcerated for life."
Originally posted by Chadwickus
PhyberDragon: Without sounding rude, how did you manage to get an IQ test when you were eight when you couldn't even get tape to fix your shoes?
Just seems like a weird priority to me...
Personally if I was as poor as you say you were I wouldn't be concerning myself with IQ tests...
Originally posted by j2000
Thanks for messing up this thread with two pages of dribble............