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I am in prison and just need a little help to escape. Please hear me out...

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posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 02:50 AM
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You know we created this prison. There is no "them" versus "us," its everybody. People speak of world peace or how cruel everything has become while they fight with their friends and sue their neighbors.

As above, so below.

Are you worthy of freedom?




posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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The only escape is suicide, that will release your soul into the earth and you will finally be free. Don't you know that the prison monitors your internet usage and messages, forums, emails, google searches . . . everything is monitored. If that is not bad enough, like you said they are using mind control and can both program your brains and read your thoughts so they know that you are trying to bust out of the joint. I don't think you will be able to make an effective wave blocker out of the rudimentary supplies that are available in prison but you must try to do that before they catch on to your plan to escape. Trust me I know, I was in your position 15 years ago. . . .



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 03:45 AM
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I join ATS. I pick a thread at random. I'm chuckling Dr. Hibbert style.

I think I'm going to like it here



The only solution I can offer Rumple is suicide. It solves all the world's problems



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:55 AM
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Interesting look at that story.

There are many "Childrens Tales" that contain hidden messages, one of the famous ones was "Animal Farm".

It is like the bible however, one man reads it and sees a fictional storybook. One man reads it and sees metaphorical scriptures.

There is no real wrong or right when it comes to what you see as we are all different and thats why we are here.




posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 08:57 AM
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If you really want to get out you must meditate and build power, learn to use your untapped resources (inside yourself).

When guys teleport, or walk on water, or smash a bunch of bricks with their forehead, or merge with and walk through a wall, this is how it starts. And, you have a bunch of time, basically all that's needed. Looks like you were set up for the challenge then.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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I just popped in and am still reading my way through this. Good Thread!!! Thank you OP, we really need more people waking up here.

THINK about it. Literally.


WE'RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE. Hehe.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 11:00 AM
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Hmmm Sorta sounds like a movie I rented on PPV called The
Lazarus Project? Do you get to watch many movies?

~Peace



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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The fantasy land of money? Interesting. I dont remember the entire story, honestly. Creepy little baby stealing troll. First born. Entrapment and sticking to the fine print instead of honorable principal. Twisted lies, deception, entrapment, wording. And conversely... "well look! Rumplestilksken!". Someone had to spell it correctly or something, 3 chances. As you see; I fail.

If anything at least he may have birthed the Spelling Bee.

hmmm. The start of the banking system, eh? Trade and community was more interesting. I build you shoes, you give me rolls. Your son will build my house. Take care of a grandmother while someone toils in the fields.

I wonder how things will turn out. Could we handle a banking-money system collapse?




posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 11:28 AM
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To escape we must die, otherwise enjoy your cage, world and accept life as is



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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Rumple: I know you hate me, but please listen....When you're in the chow line in jail and get macaroni and cheese, always request the "classic"preparation. You will be kindly rewarded with a cheesy bounty. Additionally, if you become a cook, always select a box of macaroni that promises cheese retention (spirals, special shapes, etc.) Other than that I'm glad you're off the streets.




[edit on 23-1-2009 by NightVision]



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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Hey, OMFG You get it. There are stupid stupid people, there are stupid stupid people, there are stupid people, stupid people, stupid people all around the world. They are in the Matrix and they are so hopelessly dependent on the Matrix that they will fight for it and cling to it because they believe that they need it. They are so used to being in this matrix, they were born into bondage in a prison they can't see, taste or smell or touch! But it's all around us, it's in our house, it's outside of our house. Stupid people work for stupid people, who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid #ing people! Feel free to drop me a Line.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by SeenAndNeverHeard
Hey, OMFG You get it. There are stupid stupid people, there are stupid stupid people, there are stupid people, stupid people, stupid people all around the world. They are in the Matrix and they are so hopelessly dependent on the Matrix that they will fight for it and cling to it because they believe that they need it. They are so used to being in this matrix, they were born into bondage in a prison they can't see, taste or smell or touch! But it's all around us, it's in our house, it's outside of our house. Stupid people work for stupid people, who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid people who work for stupid #ing people! Feel free to drop me a Line.


I don't care if my macaroni isn't real. It still tastes like heaven. Ignorance is bliss.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 12:46 PM
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I find it frightening, that so many people on ATS, can't read. I am absolutely shocked! Deny ignorance they shout and sheeple they are.
How many of us actually don't see the prison, even though we see the walls daily.


@ Topic: I have to agree with several posters, that said the same thing => getting out is the smaller problem. The worse problem is, what do we do then?

BB,
Samuel



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 12:48 PM
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As interesting as the OP was. The facts are not as stated. The Brothers Grimm never wrote or created none of the Tales. They only collected them and put them in a book. So, they had no message to deliver in what they printed, only to preserve the folk tales from Germany. There is a multitude of websites that all have the same information.
It is interesting however, that because they did what they did, we have the whole Disney film collection to entertain our kids.
As to the messages in the tales, yes they were made up to serve a message. But, as far as Rumpelstiltskin goes concerning the International Bank, it does not apply to the origin of he Tale. \
Nobody knows who started the tale. It was already German folklore when they collected and printed it along with others like Cinderella, Snow White, etc.

No don't get me wrong, I truely believe the bankers of the world control everything and are the elite everyone is looking for. Both at our Fed Reserve and the International Bank.
They feel we are just here to serve them one way or another.
But I am sorry, Rumpelstiltskin has nothing to do with it.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 03:13 PM
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I wonder if the "cells" in our bodies think the same way?

I wonder if they think, "we are in person and need to escape"?

I like elf's saying on the door of the cell because that is the truth.

It's a prison/person of our own design, just be thankful you are alive.

Hang in there...Peace



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by hardcoremusiclover
What hes saying is he wants to over throw the government. But he needs "numbers' as in mass amounts of support.


He never said over throw the "Prison" System, he refers to Altering, Modifying, or Abolishing those parts (not those people) which FAIL to Secure Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Why does everyone assume that those who want to change the rules want to do it by force? Maybe there are those in the "Prison" System we call Government, Religion, Philosophy, etc. who love the status quo so much that it is They who would initiate such violence, are we then not to defend ourselves? How would we do that without organization and training. It is our right to have a well armed militia of the Citizens, that means individuals with ties to each other not other groups, to stave off an overbearing "Prison" System of Government, Religion, Philosophy, etc. But, that is neither the intent or focus of what many People are proposing. No one wants to use Force, but, they aren't going to not Defend themselves, either. What they are proposing is a ReWrite of the Philosophies, Policies, Rules, Laws, and their, Enforcement, as well as, the way in which these things are Judged. In numbers, such a Re- Vamping could be achieved, but, not by those narrow- minded enough and limited in their views so as to assume Violence is the desired and only recourse for that changed. Violence should only be met with appropriate Resistance, it should not be the Tool of Resistance. People who think that are the first inherant danger to a free people which should be addressed, before even bothering to lay out the specific change you want to see and the path to make such change happen. It's not that People would not have to be removed to achieve change, where I differ from Violence- Mongers is the preferred Method of such a Removal.
You don't think 10, 000 People asking you to leave your job politely won't Inspire you to just pack up and leave? Especially, if your own BodyGuards and Security Teams are numbered among those doing the asking? Where's the Violence in that? The only thing an Intelligent mind faces is how to convince those 10, 000 or 10's of thousands, or millions, or billions- including their Body Guards and Security Teams, to ask them to leave in the First place. Do that and you achieve your goals with the truest of Victories. A Voluntary Defeat.

[edit on 23-1-2009 by PhyberDragon]

[edit on 23-1-2009 by PhyberDragon]



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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"Escape from the prison planet" Clutch

Then against my better judgment I went walking out that door.
I smiled at one person then I nodded to three more.
One man asked me for a dollar, I asked him, "What's it for?"
He said, "I have seen them." I said, "O.K., it's yours."
And as featured on the MTV, the local high school lets out,
And the town becomes anarchy.
Parties are crashed, skid marks are measured.
The story's in the paper, you may read it at your leisure.
Get out.
Eject.
Escape From the Prison Planet.
Get out.
Eject.
Escape From the Prison Planet.
And to the tune of a billion dollars, I supplied to the D.O.E.
Some tasty little nuggets of alien technology.
And as one might expect, I've been harassed for years.
The Men In Black have been bending my ear.
As a matter of fact, they were just here today,
But I escaped them through a secret passageway.
Once I lived there for one thousand days.
Get out.
Eject.
Escape From the Prison Planet.
Get out.
Eject.
Escape From the Prison Planet.
I have plans for the future, guess they're futuristic plans.
Move out west and buy some desert lands.
Maybe up North, just past Alaska.
You know nothing of this if they ask you.
Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar's coming over.
So honey clear the airstrip and light up that stove.
By Jove, I think it's started. Oh yeah,
Escape From the Prison Planet.
Billion people harvest on Mars.
Rebuild the remnants of the obelisk,
One mile from the pyramid.
Escape From the Planet of the Apes.
Go forth, ad infinitum.
Return the relics to the Elephant.
And Atlantis rises.
Get out.
Eject.
Escape From the Prison Planet.
Ejector seat ignite.
Billion people harvest on Mars.
Rebuild the remnants of the obelisk,
One mile from the pyramid.
Escape From the Planet of the Apes.
Go forth, ad infinitum.
Return the relics to the Elephant.
And Atlantis rises.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by XXXN3O
reply to post by Rumpelstiltskin
 


I hear you.

I must point out to you that the answer is in front of you in how to get many people.

Your just not looking for it or have yet to figure it out.

I spoke about this a while back and not many people got what I was on about as it is a dangerous thing to post fully.

The government is not your enemy, for the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The PTB if you like, that you are up against is something that is not to be stopped and is part of what must happen to allow humanity to overcome our current ways. Its a shame but anywhere I turn it all leads back to that.

All roads lead to Rome im afraid. You are serving your time.

What happened to Rome?

I do have one question for you though.

If you were to successfully overthrow, end, etc
What would you then do? Become a guard?

I have found that it is not that hard to get rid but it is the what after, that is the major problem.

[edit on 22-1-2009 by XXXN3O]


You are correct. The Government, the Armed Forces, the Organized religions, Corporations, etc. Are not the enemy. Never have been and never will be. They are lifeless and void on their own as entities go. It is only the individuals which give them quasi- sentience. The enemy, therefore, are your fellow "inmates", the Citizen's at large. They are naive, complacent, greedy, power- driven, buy into the Voice of the day while having no Free Voice of their own and are left Parakeeting half truths and outright fabrications, unaware of their errors and ommissions of facts they've neither the time, desire, or oftentimes, the resources to verify. And with so many conflicting Ideologies and Interpretations of Knowledge (Ie: right/ wrong. good/ bad. necessary/ unnecessary) You would need to control the Mainstream Ideology to destroy the existing one. Our Governments appear to put us at odds with one another, when, in truth, it is ourselves.
We are the Government. Many want simply to overthrow themselves, but, to do so is to over throw your neighbor.



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Goathief
Lovely post, I just don't see it being possible for many to escape and then following that - what to replace the prison and it's guards with? They have to be destroyed otherwise the escape will be futile and end with our re-incarceration or worse.

Now where are my pain pills?

*EDIT*
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Sounds defeatist to me.

*EDIT 2*

Seems we agree after your edit.


[edit on 22-1-2009 by Goathief]


Actually. That is the Easy Part. I would start with Legal Definitions. I would convene a true open to all democratically balanced committee which allows for everyone to propose, line by line and word by word, and to vote, line by line and word by word, one voice- one vote, line by line and word by word, just what we decide, the words should mean. After that, Then, do the same for each Piece of Legislation, line by line and word by word. I would continue this process for Every body of Learning and the subcategories within these body's-- transferring the methods and results to each resultant occupation and field of endeavor. Once completed-- and no one said it would be quick and easy-- but, once completed, I would submit each completed area of endeavor to one final balloted approval. If everyone agrees that's what they want, and they all have an equal place at the table, then, they would ensure it happened, however they came together and agreed to make it happen.

So, the most peaceful way to change the World. Local, State, Federal, National, InterNational, Annexes, Territories, Islands, Cities, Counties, Holdings, Purchases, Countries, Continents, etc. --all groups, all levels. conventions to ReWrite (or uphold) all aspects of that which makes a Society a Society. Making it happen will follow, by proxy. Even, if it should be determined by two thirds vote that violence must ensue-- then all those who want to use violence, would be voted and allowed to so do. Everyone gets their wish.

What other way would there be to ensure the change is right and needed for everyone than to just ask them.

And, if you can't, don't, or won't take part in the line by line word by word rewrites, then what can you do or provide to make it happen? Everyone gets one vote-- no representatives. (Except for emergencies which can't wait for a vote, then a vote must be made ASAP to validate or overturn the Emergency Representatives vote).
And no more Secrecy. If we have something, the whole world gets it. If others try to use it in evil ways, the whole world is responsible for stopping them, dead in their tracks if need be. We have for too long become accustomed to secrets. They are at the core of what divide and destroy a people, no matter how well intended hiding such secrets may be or seem to be.

Doing it this way, there would be those with vested interests who would push to write and vote Laws, Rules, regulations, Acts of Public law, Constitutions, treaties, Ammendments, Judgements, definitions, etc. in their favor, but, the masses would have to agree. And lobbying will not be allowed. Make the information available for all, make the anti- information available for all, that's it. No organized pandering of the information will be allowed.

[edit on 23-1-2009 by PhyberDragon]

[edit on 23-1-2009 by PhyberDragon]



posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by amari
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After reading your post again more carefully I understand where you are coming from. This is now how I interpret your thoughts. The Prison is The United States Of America and the inmates are your fellow tax paying citizens that voted for Obama. You feel some sort of mind control on a mass scale was used to elect Obama as our President. You are afraid to express your true feelings of what you believe most of the time in fear of persacution and therefore agree with the mass citizens thinking to stay out of trouble and it is less hassle. This includes your thoughts on mind control thru sublimunal messages from the media including T.V. programing and advertising also cell phones and the internet.

You further feel that the changing of the guard which is the New Administration headed up also by the NWO is more lax when it comes to the security of The United States Of America. This lack of security will spill over to the internet where it leaves holes in our protective umbrella.

The escape you are talking about has to be orgastrated with like minded individuals. This escape is many fasated and I can not go into it right now because fear of persacution because I feel we no longer have freedom of speech without severe persacution and penalties if we do not go along with being politically correct or you are branded as a ___________.

The Drugs you describe are the GM food we eat, flouride, tens of thousands of perservatives in the foods we eat, additives, priority pollutants in our drinking water, hormones, steroids, and antibiotics pumped into the meat we eat. I almost forgot the herbicides and pesticides.

This includes vaccines with mercury not to mention the billions and billions of dollars of drugs the citizens take daily produced by the pharmasutical companies. This also includes mind altering drugs that millions of people are on and doctors prescribe for their patients that are in need of mental health therapy. Again this is only my opinion of what I think your hidden thoughts are of what you wrote actually means.


[edit on 22-1-2009 by amari]


How does who elects somebody or who is elected change anything. do people just not get that being caught up in the scripted and rehearsed drama of the Soap Opera called Politics, is no different than getting wrapped up in the charismatic actors of daytime soaps. FDR-Kennedy- Nixon- Johnson- Clinton- carter- bush- Obama- Washington- Lincoln- jefferson--- they make no difference. Democrats- republicans- Whigs- torries- Green- Socialist- Constitutionalist- Liberalist- Conservative- Radical-left- right- center-- makes no difference. Objectavist- subjectavist- relatavist-- makes no difference. Freud- Joyce- Jung- Spock- Ruth- Socrates- Plato- Pythagoreaus- Aristotle- Jocephus- Katz- Marx- makes no difference.

It is that none have sifted from the start of things and made the roots and their offshooting vines conform to a more modern agenda. Not everything is a witting or unwitting conspiracy. Some things are the result of an ever compounding snowball affect of the culmination of all learning and actions which have taken place over time. Didn't you see the cube? We all built it, from our cave dwelling ancestors, maybe even the Star Men, to us now, here, today. Even you and I add to this snowball for the generations to come. If we don't strip this snowball bare and repack it with controlled desirable layers casting off the dirty out dated and unecessary ideas (and actions) we are as much to blame as anyone for the avalanche to come, an avalanche we ourselves are already drowning, if not drowned, in.



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