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Topic started on 19-1-2009 @ 07:13 PM by Level
After reading the quotes about Israel from a foxnews article posted below, does it make sense that 1200 people were killed in Gaza? A palestinian human rights group says only 95 were palestinian fighters(check prisonplanet.com). Meaning over 1000 civilians were killed. Even if the source is lying the number is still way too high. So why was Isreal firing so much and killing so many civilians if there wasnt much of a fight? Israel supporters please explain. I have never backed either side.

"The Islamic militant group's fighters put up little resistance to Israel's crushing offensive, and the army _ still smarting from its stalemate with Hezbollah guerrillas in their 2006 conflict in southern Lebanon _ emerged relatively unscathed and more confident."

"In contrast, Israel suffered just nine combat deaths, five of them from "friendly fire.""

"Yet soldiers returning from the battlefield said they were surprised by the lack of resistance from Hamas, a group that receives backing from Iran and had vowed to inflict heavy losses on Israeli troops."

"In an interview, an infantry reservist who fought in Gaza said he and his comrades experienced only light combat during over a week inside. They took no casualties, he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because army regulations prohibit troops from giving interviews."

"Whoever reads the Israeli media would think the military fought the most glorious war in its history, but that isn't accurate," said Israeli military analyst Reuven Pedatzur. "There wasn't even one battle."


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 07:51 PM by dooper
reply to post by Operation AJAX


This definition of genocide assumes a willful calculated effort, without justification.

Unfortunately, this definition doesn't apply when any of these events occur in response to being attacked.

Besides. Even then, they only hit two. And two out of five win nothing.


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 07:52 PM by dooper
reply to post by Operation AJAX

So Mossad agents were killed, and counted as Palestinian civilian deaths?


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 07:57 PM by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by FredT
The math is actually easy. Densely crowded urban environment. Liberal use of munitions against targets that included schools and hosptials means there is going to be alot of "collateral" damage. Then add WP into the mix and it makes for alot of this.




There ya go. thats exactly it.

On a side note, I find myself getting more and more disgusted by this each day. I hear about more deaths more bombings, and I just shakey my head in shame.

I just wish both sides would stop. I never understood why we always feel that the only way we can work out our differences is through war.

I mean, war has NOT worked. From the dawn of man, we have been fighting wars in one fasion or another and what have they gotten us? Not much because we still go to war to "resolve" our issues.

For those of you who do not know, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result each time. Well war is insane. We keep going to war expecting it to solve our issues.

Why cant we see that its not solving anything?

I truly think its time we try something else. I dont know what that something else is, but continuing with war (IMO) would be nothing more than insane. Lets try something that isnt insane for once. Whoknows, We may be surprised and actually find a way to resolve differences that WORKS.

I just needed to vent. This thread seemed like a good place to share how I was feeling, so thanks for putting up with me for a minute. im just fed up with war.

They say that the best way to change the world is to start with yourself, So I suppose that means, in a sense, to lead by example. Show others that it is possible to resolve an issue without war. mabye someone will catch on. If just one person learns than I have made a positive difference in the world.


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 08:33 PM by dooper
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Oh, Ajax. I apologize that you expected more. You want more?

"If they [Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide." Hizballah leader Sheikh Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, Lebanon Star, October 23, 2002

"The jihad and suicide bombing will continue - the Zionist entity will reach its end in the first quarter of the current century. It is there fore up to you [Muslim Holy Fighters] to be patient - the Hamas takes upon itself the liberation of all Palestinian land from the sea to the rivber in the Rafah [in the south] and until Rosh Hanikra [in the north.]" Hamas spiritual leader Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Al-Ayyam, December 28, 2002

"We are teaching the children that suicide bombs make Israeli people frightened and we are allowed to do it ... We teach them that after a person becomes a suicide bomber he reaches the highest level of paradise." Palestinian "Paradise Camp" counselor to BBC interviewer, quoted July 20, 2001

This goes back a while -

"This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades." Azzam Pasha, Secretary-General of the Arab League, may 15, 1948

"Our forces are now entirely ready not only to repulse the aggression, but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionists presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united ... I, as a military man, believe that the time has come to enter into a battle of annihilation." Syrian Defense Minister Hafez Assad, May 20, 1967

"Arab policy at this stage has but two objectives. The first, the elimination of the traces of the 1967 aggression through an Israeli withdrawal from all the territories it occupied that year. The second objective is the elimination of the traces of the 1948 aggression, by the means of the elimination of the State of Israel itself." Muhammed Heikal, Sadat confidant and editor of the Al-Ahram, February 25, 1971.

Talking about the 1948 aggression?

"The repersentative of the Jewish agency told us yesterday that they were not the attackers, that the Arabs had begun the fighting. We did not deny this. We told the whole world that we were going to fight." Jamal Husseini before the UN Security Council, April 16, 1948

Is that what you were looking for?

Kind of looks like the genocide is all directed against Israel, according to Muslims, Palestinians, Egyptians, Syrians, and if you want more, I've got lots more.

In their own words.


reply posted on 19-1-2009 @ 08:51 PM by Operation AJAX
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Operation AJAX


Oh, Ajax. I apologize that you expected more. You want more?


Yes, but not your oh so tired Strawmans Really, are you so out of ideas that you keep having to repost the same boring old propaganda?
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