...I'm also getting pretty sick and tired of those who are either ignorant of the facts, or purposely using "BS to baffle..."

We know those tremendously,nay, searinglywhite hot WTC1and2 buildings were in fact not hot at all....remember the pics of those sorry people waving for help standing in the holes of the buildings??

they never had any foam Delta....wheres all this heat you rattled on about???

In your first sentence you bemoaned how some people "create lies and conspiracys in order to shelter themselves away from the real world.."

were you perhaps looking in the mirror as you typed that??

Stop lying....stop...

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Mis information at it's finest... If you were them, wouldn't you put a bunch of bull # out there on the web to confuse the truth, which in a lot of cases results in stereo types like "conspiracy nut"

Watch Loose Change again,
Watch Zero 9/11,
Watch 9/11 coincidences,
Watch Terrorstorm,

Bush mentions explosives in the WTC, the pentagon was a missile, Flight 93 was shot down...this is all out of the horse's mouth.

sorry but my memory doesnt seem to serve me right now , but was there a black box found in the pentagon strike ? And if I remember correctly there are quite a few cameras that apparently were either out of order or missing from pentagon security . I seen the vid of the pentagon strike , the object in that brief clip was A) too small to be an airliner , B) way to low to the ground to be an airliner and C) showed no wings nor the very obvious tail that these airliners have. And with those three observations and the obvious missing debris , I am inclined to believe that maybe a cruise missle with conventional payload. But no way an airliner.

I admittedly don't know much about the 9/11 conspiracy...but i do have a question. Where there any witnesses that are 'on the record' to actually seeing the plane crash into the pentagon? The reason I ask is that I don't think i've seen anything....but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Edit for typos

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Black Knight, you are exactly right, "NO WAY that it could have been an airliner, because I have watched those film clips over and over and over, and I am sorry, that was "NO AIRLINER!" NO WAY! I was in the miltary for 4 years back in the 80's, was a "trained observer," and there is no way in hell that was an airliner that hit the Pentagon. NO WAY!!!

This is a massive coverup, and they can explain it one million times, and I still won't believe them! That was no airliner!

Sad, that we pay taxes to an "F'ing Government" which would do this sort of thing, just hope that there are special places in Hell for them, Bush too, all the Bushes, and Cheney, and all the others in on it! I hope they all "roast in Hell!"

~ Lonelypoet

David9176, you also ask a very legitimate question, and that is, "Where are all the friggin' witnesses for the Pentagon crash??? None, None, None, they don't exist, because it was "a missile!"

Sad, but true! Our government did all this!!!!!!

~ Lonelypoet

Paxnatus, watch the video which shows the supposed plane that hits the Pentagon, and look at all the videos of the aftermath of the Pentagon, and tell me if you see a tail-section, a wing, a fuselage, an engine, you see "NOTHING!"

*****A PLANE DID NOT HIT THE PENTAGON!*****

~ Lonelypoet

Originally posted by stealthAUS
definition of missile:
source oxford online dictonary:

missile

• noun

1 an object which is forcibly propelled at a target.

2 a weapon that is self-propelled or directed by remote control, carrying conventional or nuclear explosive.


"an object which is forcibly propelled at a target."
proof that an aeroplane can be used as a missile. some earlier missiles before the design of the crusiform shape liked very much like UAV's with a charge on them.
also in saying that anything from throwing a rock to a dart is classified as a missile.

I've never heard anyone accidentally call a missile "a plane" and likewise I've definitely never heard anyone accidentally called a plane "a missile". I doubt 9/11 is any exception... if our Secretary of State said it was a missile then he said that on purpose to mean missile. My personal belief is that it was said on purpose to throw off conspiracy theorists to think there was no plane that hit the Pentagon when in fact there was a plane that hit the pentagon. The only way I can imagine that he would accidentally refer to it as a missile is if it were laden with a whole lot of explosives... in that case a slip-up would be understandable.

I challenge anyone who believes otherwise to point to a single instance in the entire history of news in any location, country, or language, to find a statement where a passenger plane is called a missile, or a missile is called a passenger plane. If a dictionary says that a passenger jet is a missile then the dictionary needs to be written better because people simply do not call planes "missiles".

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Originally posted by ANOK


What if they used just ONE device? Have you ever thought of that possibility? You do know of that possibility right?

Further to the one bomb in each tower theory, I assume you remember the attack in 1993?

A 680kg car bomb was used, it opened a 30-m (98 ft) wide hole through four sublevels of concrete.

This didn't bring down the WTC did it?

So somehow a bomb LARGER than 680kgs got smuggled into each tower ready to detonate after they fly a plane into them? Not only do they need to get the bombs into the towers they have to get them up to the floors that are near the planes impacts. Because this is where the buildings start to fall isn't it?
How did they know which tower to detonate first? How did they know that the planes were going to hit where they wanted them to?

Why even bother with the planes? Why not just set off an even bigger car bomb? wouldn't it look less suspicious?

No one said a "bomb" larger than 680KG's was smuggled in....

..you did...

you seem to be arguing/ debating yourself!!

Originally posted by Lonelypoet
Paxnatus, watch the video which shows the supposed plane that hits the Pentagon, and look at all the videos of the aftermath of the Pentagon, and tell me if you see a tail-section, a wing, a fuselage, an engine, you see "NOTHING!"

*****A PLANE DID NOT HIT THE PENTAGON!*****

~ Lonelypoet

I don't have to. I know what I believe!! I believe many Americans and foreigners died that day! I believe that all the speculating in the world won't
bring those people back!

Here's what I know!! It is disgraceful and distasteful to drag the actions of that day through the dirt over and over again with absolutely ZERO PROOF whatsoever! Unless you were there, you cannot say for sure!

Have some respect for the victims families. These were not crash test dummies on these planes and in these buildings. These were mother's, father's, son's, daughter's, sister's, brother's, aunts, uncles and friends!!
These were real people with real lives!! So stop grasping at straws here!!

You people don't want the truth. You want to believe it is true! You want this
to be the biggest conspiracy of all time! Quite sad really!