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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:26 PM by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow





Why monitor a blog that speaks against say carpet bombing of peasants in Vietnam for example? Or Iraq? Or Gaza? That's my angle. Why monitor anything that exposes these acts? what do they have to learn or fear from these blogs?


The biggest concern, and probably the reason for monitoring it, is to make sure that those that are trolling or ranting, only troll and rant. There is always the concern that someone may decide to take drastic action.
One need only go back to the incident on ATS that involved the member Weise :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

to see that it is a valid concern.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:38 PM by watchZEITGEISTnow
reply to post by ProfEmeritus



See now this type of 'spin' really disturbs me. Apples and oranges. Employing someone to respond on anti-this, anti-that, pro-this, pro-that has, and I repeat has NOTHING to do with some psychotic gunman, because actually you could spin it the exact way, saying the amount of death caused by the military is absolutely shocking.

I'm sorry, but again, this seems a tactic in making anyone question the motive of a big brother type situation a psychotic themselves.

I will stand against this kind of spin and I sincerely hope others don't succumb to give away your freedoms to feel "SAFE". Gimme a break!

wZn


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:43 PM by jdub297
Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
reply to
post by jdub297



...and again another attempt to discredit the information. Will it ever stop?



Asking for proof of the validity of a document or statement offered as support or proof of a conclusion is not "an attempt to discredit," and should never stop!

The "information" has no creditibility to discredit without substantiation.
You must provide that youself before it can be discredited; as it stands, the "information" is a worthless concoction.

The offeror of evidence has the burden of proof in every persuasive discourse. The 'information' has no credibility without proper attribution and a cite to the source. Hearsay is no evidence in this instance; there are no exceptions to the Hearsay Rule that apply to serve as a guarantee of the trustworthiness of the matter asserted.

The "Air Force" document upon which you rely is nothing more than an unsigned picture, and it does not in any way establish "disinformation" in and of itself. Apply its contents, and show me how it does. (You can not or will not.)

In this and your previous responses, you have applied several of the "25 methods" of which you seem to express contempt.

Can you back up your position with a credible source? No!
Even if accepted as truth, does the document establish "disinformation?" No. again!
Can you understand what you read and post? Obviously not.

(I felt compelled to answer my own questions because you are unable or unwilling to do so yourself.)

This thread is a HOAX.



reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:51 PM by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow





See now this type of 'spin' really disturbs me. Apples and oranges. Employing someone to respond on anti-this, anti-that, pro-this, pro-that has, and I repeat has NOTHING to do with some psychotic gunman, because actually you could spin it the exact way, saying the amount of death caused by the military is absolutely shocking.


Look, you asked a question. I gave an answer. I am not SPINNING anything. I tried to give you an honest answer. You apparently don't understand that many times, people such as Weise first vocalize, then act.
In addition, whether you like it or not, you are being monitored by ATS moderators with every post you make. They also have valid concerns, such as making sure that they don't become the object of a law suit. That is the real world. If you prefer to live in a fantasy world, fine, then don't ask real people real questions.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 11:30 PM by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by Darthorious



Actually, the phone number is listed as:
ome > Contact Us ... Air Force Public Affairs Agency Trademark Office 1690 Air Force Pentagon Washington, D.C., 20330-1690 703-696-1158 or DSN 426-1158 ...


It is the general switchboard for the US Air Force Public Affairs Agency



reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 02:17 PM by musselwhite
reply to post by greeneyedleo

as usual, you are seldom in agreement with anything posted regarding covert military operations.


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 02:44 PM by greeneyedleo
Originally posted by musselwhite
reply to
post by greeneyedleo

as usual, you are seldom in agreement with anything posted regarding covert military operations.


Ah! As usual you resort to snide personal comments about me. I'm telling you now - stop it. You don't know me. You don't know what I know and believe. I share what I choose to share and do not share all that I know or believe - on any topic.

And if I see something that could be wrong - I deny ignorance by participating in said discussion and providing evidence to support my position. At least im mature enough to say that if im found to be wrong, I will own up to it.

Do you have anything to add to this thread other then personal attack? Can you prove or disprove the legitimacy of this topic and the image posted? Please, show us your research and proof, we are waiting for it, as im sure you didnt just stop by to attack me personally
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