The Air Force probably would need a flow chart to explain how to read the flow chart, they sure are hyped up on regimentation!

Originally posted by musselwhite

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as usual, you are seldom in agreement with anything posted regarding covert military operations.

And just what do you know about anything that has to do with covert military operations? Because if you do, you'd have signed a NDA and wouldn't be yapping about them on this forum.

Originally posted by musselwhite
more]ha ha ha. "stop it." sure, ok, no problem! ha ha ha. that's a good one. i for one believe it's going on as we speak. there is no trolling here. you disprove the military is not monitoring threads. btw, how is it you have so much time on your hands. do you sit at a 'puter all day monitoring what is being said on this board? your always quick, real quick.

So, she answers quick. Big freakin' deal. She has better spelling and grammar than you do.

And she has to disprove that the military isn't monitoring things? Where's your proof that they are? I honestly think the military has better things to do. They aren't waiting by a console, staring at the screen, just waiting for musselwhite to post.

And of course the fact there is no AirForce seal on it. Every piece of paperwork I sent or received including class room instruction material we were required to place an AirForce seal on it. If you didn't the higher ups would get quite upset with you.

Well I totally agree it looks like BS but this statement isn't exactly true. I've had plenty of materials that never had the symbol. Official documents yet but many AF Forms, IMT Forms, classroom materials, and many Power Point things without it. At least it isn't true everywhere in the AF...

regardless...those charts look...ridiculous

-Kyo

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Ah! As usual you resort to snide personal comments about me. I'm telling you now - stop it. You don't know me. You don't know what I know and believe. I share what I choose to share and do not share all that I know or believe - on any topic.

And if I see something that could be wrong - I deny ignorance by participating in said discussion and providing evidence to support my position. At least im mature enough to say that if im found to be wrong, I will own up to it.

Do you have anything to add to this thread other then personal attack? Can you prove or disprove the legitimacy of this topic and the image posted? Please, show us your research and proof, we are waiting for it, as im sure you didnt just stop by to attack me personally

Absolutely brilliant post.

Could not have put that better at all, and really could have used this in the past.

WTG G.E.L.

this should be front page

While everyone is patting themselves on the back. I notice the diversion is in process here. So to all those that believe this particular chart to be bunk, that's fine. However rather than rubbing each others egos ....

how about some constructive input from those people, like the question I just asked Jericho65 and greeneyedleo.

That would be great to know if any of the debunkers of this thread open up on what they think/know about disinformation agents and when this has been applied? eg. Gulf of Tonkin

big smooches too you all

wZn

Good afternoon people.

The back and forth personality conflicts stop as of right now.

The issue, and I remind you because certain folks seem to have forgotten,
is: Paid disinfo agents... we have your proof right here!

Let's keep that in mind shall we? Thanks.

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
Just want to know if you believe in disinfo agents at all? If so what types of disinfo do you believe has been spread on ATS and by whom? Thanks.

As BlupBlup said, it's probably safe to say that there are disinfo guys out there. Are there here? I don't know. I don't think anyone would know.

But is that original flow chart some sort of "Disinfo blueprint"? I think GEL proved that it wasn't.

Exactly.. the thread wasn't about whether we thought there were or were not agents...

It was your absolute proof there were?

So your questioning is actually off topic.

I thought we were getting somewhere too?

[edit on 8/1/09 by blupblup]

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
Just want to know if you believe in disinfo agents at all? If so what types of disinfo do you believe has been spread on ATS and by whom? Thanks.

As BlupBlup said, it's probably safe to say that there are disinfo guys out there. Are there here? I don't know. I don't think anyone would know.

But is that original flow chart some sort of "Disinfo blueprint"?

Awesome. Now we're getting somewhere. Thank you for your reply too.

wZn

I have always thought that if someone would place a disinfo agent in a forum like this, it would not be a "debunker" or a "skeptic". It would be a "believer".

Someone who drowned grains of truth in absolutely outrageous and idiotic claims that could very easily be prowen wrong or false. In that way they can discredit conspiracy theorists in general. You know, like the people wearing tin foil hats. They sure have made ufologists a laughing stock in the main stream media and in the eyes of the average person...

I am working under the assumption that this flier is real. I'm not going to banter back and forth on the veracity of the claim. That is just a way to filter the topic.

The point I was trying to make was that if this thing was real, then yes, certainly the soldiers are being used to disinform people. Why? Because the average soldier doesn't have a clue as to the bigger picture of anything the military does. I know this. I am a vet myself.

I remember just after 9-11, the government gave us training on how to conduct yourself during a media interview just in case a reporter asked for your thoughts... We were given strict guidelines on exactly what we could say, or not say. Even came with color print-outs NOT TOO DISSIMILAR from the one we are now questioning. The military will try to put a friendly face (one like this ) on anything they do. No matter how grotesque or inhumane it may be.
There are many reasons why this is so, by the way. And good ones.

I never once said that I thought the military should stop giving guidelines to people posting on the internet. In fact, in a lot of cases, I think it is a good thing. I would only be concerned if the military had its minions outright lie.

And to the poster above who implies that I called military personnel unwitting fools, that is simply not true. As, by proxi, I would be saying the same thing of myself.
I met many, many BRILLIANT people in the military... Even we "grunts" aren't as dumb as the rest of the servicemen would have you believe.

My only concern is the overall situation. I have become so far disassociated with the military it isn't even funny. That being said, I will never speak ill of the troops. Nay, only their handlers.