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reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:30 PM by Johnathanrs
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



Once again how do you know nothing will happen in the year 2012? I will state this to you as well, are you god? Regardless of the fact, there are many theories regarding any aspect of a human’s life. There is much that we do not know and to state something as bold as this is stating you know the answer.


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 07:35 PM by Johnathanrs
reply to post by googolplex



Can you re-phrase your question? I don't understand what you are asking. What do you mean "How the heck did they know this? I have a hard time with the moon thing and milky way" From what I understand, your stating the Mayan civilization were sky worshipers. This is partially true, also your asking how did they know this but you’re not referencing this to anything.


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 08:25 PM by Johnathanrs
reply to post by Maban



First of all, define your definition of other-worldly means. Also, your statement regarding things will happen, because people deem them to happen is just preposterous. How can you go from expressing your logic regarding the “the galactic plane”, to such an absurd theory yourself. I missed part of the conversation regarding the alignment of planets. But, I agree with your statement that CME’s (In our galaxy) do not reflect or confine energetic releases at us. What this statement is being implied too is beyond me. Lastly, I will make a note that you stated, “Unless people intend to rewrite the laws of psychics” let me remind you it has already happened and will probably be re-written multiple times over.

I will say this to you, like I say to most people. Who are you to say something as bold as crossing the galactic disc will bare no effect on our solar system? Ever heard of the Shiva Hypothesis? Can you prove it wrong? You can debate the possibilities of it being unlikely, but once again can you prove it wrong? It is suggested, that the earth crossed the galactic plane within the past 3 million years depending on which model or measurements are used. So how does the year 2012 come into the equation? Most establish this date comes from a theory that the Mayans calendar was due for renewal in 2012. Where they got this information is all based upon non-facts and already disproven theories. Pretty much, as you stated, people molded this data to fit the theory. There are some like Rampino who makes notes that the last crossing of the galactic plane occurred a few million years ago and it has been suggested that this led to a disturbance of comets in the Oort Cloud, some of which could now be approaching the inner solar system. (Once again this is based upon a presumption. A theory with-in a theory)

Theory by Rampino: “The mass extinction record shows evidence for a periodic component of about 26 to 30 Myr, and an ~30 Myr periodic component has been detected in impact craters by some workers, with recent pulses of impacts in the last 2-3 million years, and at ~35, 65, and 95 million years ago. A cyclical astronomical pacemaker for such pulses of impacts may involve the motions of the Earth through the Milky Way Galaxy. As the Solar System revolves around the galactic center, it also oscillates up and down through the plane of the disk-shaped galaxy with a half-cycle ~30 3 Myr. This cycle should lead to quasi-periodic encounters with interstellar clouds, and periodic rotations in the galactic tidal force with maxima at times of plane crossing. This "galactic carousel" effect may provide a viable perturbed of the Oort Cloud comets, producing showers of comets in the inner Solar System. These impact pulses, along with stochastic impactors, may represent the major punctuations in earth history.



reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 08:38 PM by googolplex
reply to post by Johnathanrs

How did they know how to make calander this precice. How did they know we were crossing over to other side of MilkyWay.
And I ran program the astrological signs will all be different after 2012.


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 04:48 AM by NavalFC
reply to post by RFBurns



Having an accurate calendar doesnt mean their dire predictions about the earth were any more so.


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 05:03 AM by DataWraith
reply to post by RFBurns



Good point about observing the stars and the environment for thousands of years, we don't do that now, we're told whats up there, and if we want to look at the stars we can't ( not directly as theres too much light pollution or smog in the atmosphere) , and if we wanted to look up , thats what we do, but we 'look it up on google' and see pictures.
Mankind stopped learning centuries ago when it thought it was at the pinnacle of civilisation. Sure technology increases but man's wisdom has declined.
I had a thought a few days ago, and mankind never looks up anymore, we're all too busy watching TV or too busy looking down at the floor ( after all when theres nothing to aspire to , whats the point of looking forward?)


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 01:53 PM by Darthorious
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I just found this as i woke up on a news website frontpage.....

www.foxnews.com...

this is creepy...

btw if that were to happen would this cause instant mass death?


Oh man how ironic would that be, a unpredictable, predicted solar flare(s) in 2012 like that. One question would a car still run this day in age if that happened? There's your bailout bill GM.


reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 02:32 PM by BruceF
Well it is sure great to see such a high profile alternative thought community as ATS delve into the whole Maya Calendar and year 2012 subject. With so many great minds regarding the topic I am sure some interesting new pieces of data will surface.

That said it does seem that minds well versed in conspiracy lore are not so well versed in accurate 2012 information. I do not mean to sound unkind but having sat and read through every single post in this thread I found myself wanting to sigh loudly. Even worse I can't even say that my fellow 2012 enthusioasts were any better informed than their opposition.

Then I remembered that we are all on a learning curve. I was not born knowing incredible amounts about the supernatural or 2012 data. To be able to hold sensible conversations with the greatest minds in those fields took some 15 years of manic study and metaphysical practice. Of course most important was having contacts more knowledgeable than myself willing to share with an interested novice.

Well if anyone is interested I would like to try and step into their shoes and share what little my cup holds.

First off let me introduce myself. My name is Bruce and I run the UK's most popular 2012 Blog and am fortunate to be in contact with numerous 'experts' on that subject as well as on many other interesting matters.

I believe ATS has members extremely well informed, particularly on conspiracy material. That said thus far it seems that few of the 2012 main players are here to bring their years of research to bear. For the moment I will try to plug the breach with my own learnings.

Let me start by tackling the issue of the galactic alignment.

Bruce @
2012rising.com...
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