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reply to post by NavalFC

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You know something Naval.. I never believed in all this 2012 stuff, but now that you're attempting to debunk this.. I think I'm gonna start researching it now for myself.

BTW .. you still haven't provided your so called update over the disclosure project witnesses. Try debunking one case at a time will ya?

reply to post by RFBurns

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Nothing is going to happen in "2012". We are not even close to the center of the Galaxy and we will most likely not even be in the center for a long, long time. I am done with this 2012 crap. Nothing is going to happen.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by Gaiden]

reply to post by Gaiden

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Ya nothings going to happen. No proof of anything, either way. Just a several thousand year old calander that will end its count, and a new count begin.

Nothing will happen. Im so glad I can count on everyone else's opinion that I dont have to think for myself!!

Na...I will continue to think for myself..thanks anyway!


Cheers!!!!

reply to post by Gaiden

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And also there should not be any Galactic Alignment. The Galactic Alignment only occurs from our point of view on Earth. Say If we were on Mars or something, the Sun would not look aligned with the center.

Originally posted by FlySolo

I would like to clear something up regarding the y2k issue and the 2012. The y2k scare had nothing to do with galactic alignments, solar flares, the mayan prophecies etc. Y2k was about a computer flaw.

Thanks for clearing that up but the "bug" was only one of many predictions of doom (and other stuff) for the year 2000, attributed to Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Jeanne Dixon, and a handful (or two) of others.
*Computer bug
*Rapture
*Pole shift
*Planetary Havoc
*The Tribulation
*The Second Coming
*The End of the World
*Presidential Death Cycle
*Stock Market Reset
*Change in Power
*The Aliens Are Coming
...

paranormal.about.com...

[edit on 1/12/2009 by Phage]

Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by FlySolo

I would like to clear something up regarding the y2k issue and the 2012. The y2k scare had nothing to do with galactic alignments, solar flares, the mayan prophecies etc. Y2k was about a computer flaw.

Thanks for clearing that up but the "bug" was only one of many predictions of doom (and other stuff) for the year 2000, attributed to Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Jeanne Dixon, and a handful (or two) of others.
*Computer bug
*Rapture
*Pole shift
*Planetary Havoc
*The Tribulation
*The Second Coming
*The End of the World
*Presidential Death Cycle
*Stock Market Reset
*Change in Power
*The Aliens Are Coming
...

paranormal.about.com...

[edit on 1/12/2009 by Phage]

Funny, I only heard of the computer bug thing but even so...
That link show dates all based on the Gregorian calendar, religious views and self proclaimed prophets. As some like to say at ATS..pure bullocks!

We're talking about a civilization that dedicated it self to following astronomical events. Without the aid of a telescope mind you, and devised the most accurate calendar to date. I don't need to tell you how accurate it is, you already know.

To blatantly ignore their incredible ability to do this and to ignore the implications would be foolish.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by FlySolo]

reply to post by FlySolo

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As I understand it there really is no Mayan prediction other than some nebulous change occurring. As to why their calendar "ends" (a bit of a controversy about that), this thread presents a very credible theory about a significant (to the Maya), strictly astronomical, event which may be occurring on that date, an event that would make a good "stopping point" (and restarting point) for a calendar.

[edit on 1/12/2009 by Phage]

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by FlySolo

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As I understand it there really is no Mayan prediction other than some nebulous change occurring. As to why their calendar "ends" (a bit of a controversy about that), this thread presents a very credible theory about a significant (to the Maya), strictly astronomical, event which may be occurring on that date, an event that would make a good "stopping point" (and restarting point) for a calendar.

[edit on 1/12/2009 by Phage]

Yes interesting thread, I'll read more of it later. However, I noticed you commented in it your glad it has nothing to do about galactic alignment. I'm wondering if you have seen David Flynn's analysis on the 2012 Ouroboros doomsday clock

Link

It's 9 parts and I highly recommend it. Skeptic or not. This guy is quite intelligent and I think you will enjoy the mental challenge debunking him in your mind.

reply to post by FlySolo

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My post was initially to state that the current 2012 paranoia and the y2k were and are almost at the same levels, we said back then the world would end and now we're saying the same thing now for 2012.
we're getting scared, I'm not though as its just going to be another day, followed by another day, followed by yet another day and so on and so forth...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by FlySolo

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As I understand it there really is no Mayan prediction other than some nebulous change occurring. As to why their calendar "ends" (a bit of a controversy about that), this thread presents a very credible theory about a significant (to the Maya), strictly astronomical, event which may be occurring on that date, an event that would make a good "stopping point" (and restarting point) for a calendar.

[edit on 1/12/2009 by Phage]

The Aztecs [ whom the Mayan's learned from, in some respects ] tell a different story -

The sacred Aztec calendar is properly called the Eagle Bowl. It represents the solar deity Tonatiuh. The amazingly accurate calendar has been in use in various forms for more than 2,000 years. A Zapotec prophecy, based on the Eagle Bowl, states:

"After Thirteen Heavens of Decreasing Choice, and Nine Hells of Increasing Doom, the Tree of Life shall blossom with a fruit never before known in the creation, and that fruit shall be the New Spirit of Men."

The 13 Heavens and 9 Hells were each 52 years long (1,144 years total). Each of the 9 Hells were to be worse than the last. On the final day of the last Hell (August 17, 1987), Tezcatlipoca, god of death, would remove his mask of jade to reveal himself as Quetzelcoatl, god of peace.

In the mythology of the Aztec, the first age of mankind ended with the animals devouring humans. The second age was finished by wind, the third by fire, and the fourth by water. The present fifth epoch is called Nahui-Olin (Sun of Earthquake), which began in 3113 BC and will end on December 24, 2011. It will be the last destruction of human existence on Earth. The date coincides closely with that determined by the brothers McKenna in The Invisible Landscape as “the end of history” indicated by their computer analysis of the ancient Chinese oracle-calendar, the I Ching.

In addition -

The Mayan calendar is divided into Seven Ages of Man. The fourth epoch ended in August 1987. The Mayan calendar comes to an end on Sunday, December 23, 2012. Only a few people will survive the catastrophe that ensues. In the fifth age, humanity will realize its spiritual destiny. In the sixth age, we will realize God within ourselves, and in the seventh age we will become so spiritual that we will be telepathic

Scource :

Im not saying or trying to prove that we are ALL doomed as a species.

Though, i do believe that we are heading for a quite dramatic change in Human Evolution.

The Sun [ as the Mayans/Aztecs predicted ] will be the cause of destruction and terror on our planet. This is being seen to happen right now, both on our planet and others. Only time will tell as to when it will happen enough for us to realise. Will it be to late though?

One thing we can take from this, Humanity is going to a new higher level of Conscienceness and Spiritual Awareness. I for one can see this happening now as i myself have expirienced and continue to expirience a higher level of Conscienceness and Spiritual Awareness.

Regards,

IP


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