Just watching olbermann talk about this is a peach, while he was champing obama all this time. You cannot tell us that obama did not know how the
system worked.
I doubt we will get the real info about this, but heck obama is not even president yet and there is already scandels related to him, lol.
[edit on 12/12/2008 by andy1033]
Rahm Emanuel tips off Feds to Blagojevich,, page 2
privacy
reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:10 PM by lazy1981
reply to post by Leo Strauss
"Rahmbo" isn't playing hardball politics with anyone. Sorry freind when it comes to that, he's WAY out of his league where "The Machine" is concerned. Not even Washington holds a candle to the crap that goes on in City Hall (Chicago)!
"Rahmbo" isn't playing hardball politics with anyone. Sorry freind when it comes to that, he's WAY out of his league where "The Machine" is concerned. Not even Washington holds a candle to the crap that goes on in City Hall (Chicago)!
reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:16 PM by lazy1981
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by Leo Strauss
Much better source.
Not really, Our papers here aren't that great or "objective" if you follow me? A bit one sided kind of like our all Democrat City Government. Propaganda, our free and Independant Press has long since been dead in Chicago and obective journalism went with it.
reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 11:50 PM by lazy1981
Disillusioned! That is the only description for you. Lets start here. For the person that stated that there was a problem with Illinois Politics
he/she is wrong. And I can not stress this enough, it is CHICAGO POLITICS that are the problem. There is nothing wrong with Illinois. This is
called the Chicago "Political Machine." And it doesn't start with any Governer's office or any body politic accept that of Chicago's City Hall
and namely that of The Office of The Mayor of Chicago. If you aim to find the source of the "Machine" you had best start there or all efforts will
have been in vain! Mayor Richard M. Daley (or Commrad Stalin as I like to call him) is an iron fisted politician that puts on a really good act for
the camera yet at his core is more ruthless than any group of despotic people (as far as tactics go) than you can bring to the table BAR NONE! And he
learned it from his dady former mayor Richard J. Daley (the man that makes Presidents JFK) for whom the term "Machine" was coined when his admin.
was cocerned. If the Daley's want it they got it, end of story.
Here are a few examples. Meigs feild airport in downtown Chicago was a goodthing for the city used for small planes/jets.
www.friendsofmeigs.org...
Well Rich M. didn't think that was a good idea so he tore it up,Illegally. Nothing ever happened to him. And if you look around you'll find that John Harris, Blago's (as we call Blagjevich for short) Cheif of Staff was working for Daley at the time and was the mastermind of that illegal act! Now lets look at the O'hare expansion. A good thing you may think. Except for the fact that Daley swallowed up a buch of property from the surrounding Sub-Urbs like Bensenville, Schiller Park, and I think DesPlaines. The worst hit being Bensenville losing large swaths of territory forcing out residents and buisness owners to the tune of millions in tax revenue for the small township. Not to mention the harshiops for the people.
He does things (just as his father) like cut the power to microphones when issues come up for debate on the floor of The City Council (equal to the Sentate if you will/ City legislature) to silence the dissenters that have the testicular fortitude to stand up to him. And forces a vote without discussion.
You may ask yourself how does he get away with this? If a Councilman (i.e. Alderman) goes against him he will close the purse strings on that wards funding by what ever means neccesary stopping all repairs on streets, schools, garbage pickup, and what ever else he can get away with, just enough to enrage that Alderman's constituents so that he/she will not win the next election. And he will endorse a more suitable replacement (a yes man). And an endorsement from Daley is golden because he can do no wrong for some strange reason with my fellow inhabitants of Chicago. There is some strange love/hate relationship with him.
See the tactics employed by Blago were learned. The corruption runs deap in chicago politics. Blago learned it all from Alderman Dick Mell his father in law one of the most powerful in the City Council. How did he become so powerful? He's been a good freind to Mayor Daley. The Quid pro quo is something that permeates Chicago politics. Our mayor makes a higher annual salary that the President. When he want's a raise the City Council votes him one, in turn when they want one they vote themselves one and he signes off on it (no problem) quid pro quo! All while starving police, fireman, and paramedics of raises.
I will not even begin to tell you the corruption that runs rampant in City Hall. Well here are two the Hired Truck Scandle, Water Dept., Ghost Payrolling and they are all more or less surrounding those that surround top Daley officials and top Alderman in good with him. The Fed.s have been in and out of City Hall ripe with corruption. Do you think they are after the small fish? NO, they want Daley! Exceptthat he's a gangster and I mean that word. People will not spill his beans, they know better.
Here's another tid bit. My first experiance with voting happened like this Aldermanic hopefull Vilma Colom was running for office. I was a young kid when this happened and my mother took me to the polls with her. I can remember my mother being heckled by a group of Spanish Cobras (Chicago Gang) as she walked past them to vote. They basicalythreatened her safety to put it shortly if she voted for the opposition (this was a while back so I can't remember who the other person running was). Many people called the police over this and nothing happened. These were known gang members in the area wearing Colom T-Shirts. And she was Daley's candidate, employing gangs members to win an election via voter harrasment. It worked (not with my mother) people were intimidated and didn't vote.
I could go on with this but I think you get the point. When it comes to the "Machine " the buck stops with Daley and City Hall. It's Daley that really holds sway in Illinois politics not even the President-Elect. You would do well to remember this in the years to come. There is no grand effort by Obama or others in the White House to get the Chicago "Machine" nor will there be. That's a fantacy, how do you think he got where he is? I don't think "Rahmbo" tipped anyone off I think they stoppd the investigation because they (the FEDS) were AFRAID of what they would find and had to sheild the new admin. from damage. You have to understand this is the environment where Obama made his "political bones" so to speak how do you expect that he would come out with a different view of how to do things.
See since I was a kid I seen the problems that a powerful one-sided Government with a strongman at the helm causes. The corruption and tyranical policies that they play by. For those that come from this, these are just the rules to the game and though they may be shocking to you this is every day politics in Chicago. We see this and say, "oh that figures. I wonder IF he's going to jail." Not when IF! People like yourselves find this so obtuse. We see it all the time. And it doesn't come from Illinois, it comes from Chicago and permeates down into the Sub-Urbs of the City and this acts as a conduit into the Cook County Government (Crook County) and then down into Springfeild (the Capital).
So I say once again, these problems come from Chicago not Illinois as a whole, please stop saying that! I hope that you take away something here.
Here are a few examples. Meigs feild airport in downtown Chicago was a goodthing for the city used for small planes/jets.
www.friendsofmeigs.org...
Well Rich M. didn't think that was a good idea so he tore it up,Illegally. Nothing ever happened to him. And if you look around you'll find that John Harris, Blago's (as we call Blagjevich for short) Cheif of Staff was working for Daley at the time and was the mastermind of that illegal act! Now lets look at the O'hare expansion. A good thing you may think. Except for the fact that Daley swallowed up a buch of property from the surrounding Sub-Urbs like Bensenville, Schiller Park, and I think DesPlaines. The worst hit being Bensenville losing large swaths of territory forcing out residents and buisness owners to the tune of millions in tax revenue for the small township. Not to mention the harshiops for the people.
He does things (just as his father) like cut the power to microphones when issues come up for debate on the floor of The City Council (equal to the Sentate if you will/ City legislature) to silence the dissenters that have the testicular fortitude to stand up to him. And forces a vote without discussion.
You may ask yourself how does he get away with this? If a Councilman (i.e. Alderman) goes against him he will close the purse strings on that wards funding by what ever means neccesary stopping all repairs on streets, schools, garbage pickup, and what ever else he can get away with, just enough to enrage that Alderman's constituents so that he/she will not win the next election. And he will endorse a more suitable replacement (a yes man). And an endorsement from Daley is golden because he can do no wrong for some strange reason with my fellow inhabitants of Chicago. There is some strange love/hate relationship with him.
See the tactics employed by Blago were learned. The corruption runs deap in chicago politics. Blago learned it all from Alderman Dick Mell his father in law one of the most powerful in the City Council. How did he become so powerful? He's been a good freind to Mayor Daley. The Quid pro quo is something that permeates Chicago politics. Our mayor makes a higher annual salary that the President. When he want's a raise the City Council votes him one, in turn when they want one they vote themselves one and he signes off on it (no problem) quid pro quo! All while starving police, fireman, and paramedics of raises.
I will not even begin to tell you the corruption that runs rampant in City Hall. Well here are two the Hired Truck Scandle, Water Dept., Ghost Payrolling and they are all more or less surrounding those that surround top Daley officials and top Alderman in good with him. The Fed.s have been in and out of City Hall ripe with corruption. Do you think they are after the small fish? NO, they want Daley! Exceptthat he's a gangster and I mean that word. People will not spill his beans, they know better.
Here's another tid bit. My first experiance with voting happened like this Aldermanic hopefull Vilma Colom was running for office. I was a young kid when this happened and my mother took me to the polls with her. I can remember my mother being heckled by a group of Spanish Cobras (Chicago Gang) as she walked past them to vote. They basicalythreatened her safety to put it shortly if she voted for the opposition (this was a while back so I can't remember who the other person running was). Many people called the police over this and nothing happened. These were known gang members in the area wearing Colom T-Shirts. And she was Daley's candidate, employing gangs members to win an election via voter harrasment. It worked (not with my mother) people were intimidated and didn't vote.
I could go on with this but I think you get the point. When it comes to the "Machine " the buck stops with Daley and City Hall. It's Daley that really holds sway in Illinois politics not even the President-Elect. You would do well to remember this in the years to come. There is no grand effort by Obama or others in the White House to get the Chicago "Machine" nor will there be. That's a fantacy, how do you think he got where he is? I don't think "Rahmbo" tipped anyone off I think they stoppd the investigation because they (the FEDS) were AFRAID of what they would find and had to sheild the new admin. from damage. You have to understand this is the environment where Obama made his "political bones" so to speak how do you expect that he would come out with a different view of how to do things.
See since I was a kid I seen the problems that a powerful one-sided Government with a strongman at the helm causes. The corruption and tyranical policies that they play by. For those that come from this, these are just the rules to the game and though they may be shocking to you this is every day politics in Chicago. We see this and say, "oh that figures. I wonder IF he's going to jail." Not when IF! People like yourselves find this so obtuse. We see it all the time. And it doesn't come from Illinois, it comes from Chicago and permeates down into the Sub-Urbs of the City and this acts as a conduit into the Cook County Government (Crook County) and then down into Springfeild (the Capital).
So I say once again, these problems come from Chicago not Illinois as a whole, please stop saying that! I hope that you take away something here.
Heck, I'm a housewife in the Southwest US and I knew a lot about the corruption of politics in
the city of Chicago and the state of Illinois... I'm pretty sure Obama knew about some of it. That doesn't mean he is INVOLVED in it. There's a
meth house down the street and I know about it. But I'm not INVOLVED in it. See how that works? reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 09:48 PM by lazy1981
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
And "where" did he come from Einstein????
Who's family is he married into? And who is that family conected to? Don't try and tell me what I
live through see and know. Your not much more than an armchair captain making assumptions. But then again, your a sixth generation Chicagoan and all.
Obviously Blago is the one at the center of this problem, but either you are missing the bigger picture here or you suffer from poor reading comprehension.....
[edit on 13-12-2008 by lazy1981]
And "where" did he come from Einstein????
Who's family is he married into? And who is that family conected to? Don't try and tell me what I
live through see and know. Your not much more than an armchair captain making assumptions. But then again, your a sixth generation Chicagoan and all.
Obviously Blago is the one at the center of this problem, but either you are missing the bigger picture here or you suffer from poor reading comprehension.....
[edit on 13-12-2008 by lazy1981]
reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 02:22 PM by lazy1981
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
The "tude" is derived from the comment in response to my post. "I'm sure the Governor is an upstanding guy." That's what I meant by missing the point. His whole way of doing things was formed in the Chicago political arena, meaning that Illinois isn't what puts forth this sort of scum Chicago nepotism (of sorts) and "Machine" politics is. It just migrated down to Springfeild. Since you claim to have lived in Illinois you should be aware of this.
In any event this has become a moot point. Since I have posted some semblance of an insight into the REAL issue at heart not only in Illinois but Chicago, those on the thread seem to have gone silent. Baring you and I. I guess they would rather ramain oblivious to the truth when it is revealed by one who witnesses it. They don't see it day to day and sure don't hear about it on national media. Not that Chicago media is any more objective. Sorry for any misunderstandings.
The "tude" is derived from the comment in response to my post. "I'm sure the Governor is an upstanding guy." That's what I meant by missing the point. His whole way of doing things was formed in the Chicago political arena, meaning that Illinois isn't what puts forth this sort of scum Chicago nepotism (of sorts) and "Machine" politics is. It just migrated down to Springfeild. Since you claim to have lived in Illinois you should be aware of this.
In any event this has become a moot point. Since I have posted some semblance of an insight into the REAL issue at heart not only in Illinois but Chicago, those on the thread seem to have gone silent. Baring you and I. I guess they would rather ramain oblivious to the truth when it is revealed by one who witnesses it. They don't see it day to day and sure don't hear about it on national media. Not that Chicago media is any more objective. Sorry for any misunderstandings.
reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 11:09 PM by lazy1981
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
Oh, I'm fully aware of the fact that most people don't care that this all stems from Chicago, but we wouldn't want to "DENY IGNORANCE" would we!? Hence my reason for shedding some light on the functions of Chicago politics and the correlations to this sort of political mentality. That's if they can rise above that mindframe and allow some enlightenment on the subject? This way they can better understand the situation inseatd of having only a feeling of shock.
To your statement about the Obama connection, I really haven't put any real argument to that. But since you broached the issue. Let me start off by saying that this election has polarized people like I have never seen before, to the point that on either side of the TWO PARTY SYSTEM (before you lable me, I am an Independent) people are able to be willfully blind in order to feel at complete peace with their candidate (and yes I am aware that the election is over). This blindness is already showing itself to be a problem. I know that just because Obama is from Chicago it doesn't mean that he's involved, that would be a fruitless argumentwith no substance.
What I can tell you is that I have seen that man skyrocket into a political superstar in an uncanny span of time, the first time through the backing of afore mentioned CHICAGO POLITICIANS. His first campaign was backed by prominent Chicago and Demoratic figures. This while he was literarly a nobody in Chicago (politics). Nobody in the city or sub-urbs had ever heard of this guy except for the communities where he was an organizer and his clients like Rezko or.
Even a candidate (Donne Trotter) for the 2000' State Congress had this to say about him, "You just have to look at his supporters," "Who pushed him to get where he is so fast? It's these individuals in Hyde Park, who don't always have the best interests of the community in mind."
Now we can get into the ties to Daleyand a few others. DAVID AXELROD- Daley's political stratagist since 89' then architect of Obama's campaign: VALERIE JARRETT- once Daley's planning commissioner then Obama's top campaign advisor and will likely get a key position with Obama White House: MICHELLE OBAMA- worked in Daley's executive office and Planning Dept. also freinds with the Jackson family: RAHM EMANUEL- started his political life as a Daley fundraiser. Due to recent research I must retract my previous statement that "Rahmbo" isn't familliar with Chicago politics as I have just stated (we learn new things every day). ABNER MIKVA- Chicago area Congress man/Dem. political insider/Whitehouse Counsel to Clinton OBAMA MENTOR and backer from Hyde Park: NEWTON MINOW- Obama backer/prominant lawyer/Mikva's childhood freind/Dem. insider and Obama employer at (Sidley Austin Law Firm)
And this is what we know of today, not to mention those that the Rep. brought to light (all powerful Chicago, Hyde Park area liberals) that backed Obama from day one. These (statement from Trotter and Dem. powerhouse connections) are things that I have just recently learned yet they are frightfully accurate to Trotter's statement. However this is not the sole reason for my uneasyness with Obamas rise to power (this does tie in to the thread). He also turned down two jobs at two different times one with Mikva and a second internship with Minow's firm in 90' because, "I'm going to go into SOME FORM OF POLITICS." He knows this well enough to turn down two good jobs six years out!????
Here's a bit of background on MY position, I don't like people thinking that I don't like Obama "just because he's Obama." I used to be a Democrat when I was younger and the first time that I voted outside of my party was in 04'. This was also the first time that Obama had come up as a candidate on the ballot for a district that I was represented in. Many people felt that he was an upstart that came out of nowhere and couldn't phathom how he was doing this. His messages weren't powerful and he had a poor voting record in Illinois at best. At first I was going to vote for him (like a good blind Democrat) just for the party and also because I was no great fan of (R). Jack Ryan. When Ryan dropped out he was replaced by (R) Alan Keyes and the more I heard these two debate the more I could tell that there was no substance behind Obama's words. He was just placating to the Democratic concensus. Although I didn't agree with all that Keyes put forth, I felt that he was at the least a man of his convictions. And I have many conservative values at core so he got my vote (this is to say nothing about wariness with Obama's sudden rise to power). It was the speach at the Dem. National Convention, his quick rise to power, and recent win of the U.S. Senate (with a bad voting record and lack luster message) that really got me to wondering just who is it that's pulling the strings? And I told my wife not long after that, "Mark my words, who ever it is that's pushing this guy forward will have him in the White House soon!"
And the media poked and proded him a bout a run for Pres. even after he sited his own lack of experiance as why he wouldn't run. You would have thought that they would have had a field day with that? Nope.
An example of Obama's lack of conviction is his stance on drilling for oil. While in the Ill. Senate he supported a hairbrained idea to do exploratory drilling for oil in Lake Michigan (water source for millions and could be an eco. disaster) which failed none the less. Yet stands against drilling in a small area in Anwar? Not a man of convictions, and yes I know people will say no politician is but somehow I expect more.
In any event that being said, it has always been my opinoin (and not in light of recent events) that a man that comes from nowhere to the White House must have a power pushing him there! And that power is from Chicago, this doesn't happen in Chicago without getting dirt under your fingernails.
"I'm from Chicago. I know politics. I'm skinny, but I'm tough."
-Barack Obama Pennsylvania Primary in April
[edit on 14-12-2008 by lazy1981]
Oh, I'm fully aware of the fact that most people don't care that this all stems from Chicago, but we wouldn't want to "DENY IGNORANCE" would we!? Hence my reason for shedding some light on the functions of Chicago politics and the correlations to this sort of political mentality. That's if they can rise above that mindframe and allow some enlightenment on the subject? This way they can better understand the situation inseatd of having only a feeling of shock.
To your statement about the Obama connection, I really haven't put any real argument to that. But since you broached the issue. Let me start off by saying that this election has polarized people like I have never seen before, to the point that on either side of the TWO PARTY SYSTEM (before you lable me, I am an Independent) people are able to be willfully blind in order to feel at complete peace with their candidate (and yes I am aware that the election is over). This blindness is already showing itself to be a problem. I know that just because Obama is from Chicago it doesn't mean that he's involved, that would be a fruitless argumentwith no substance.
What I can tell you is that I have seen that man skyrocket into a political superstar in an uncanny span of time, the first time through the backing of afore mentioned CHICAGO POLITICIANS. His first campaign was backed by prominent Chicago and Demoratic figures. This while he was literarly a nobody in Chicago (politics). Nobody in the city or sub-urbs had ever heard of this guy except for the communities where he was an organizer and his clients like Rezko or.
Even a candidate (Donne Trotter) for the 2000' State Congress had this to say about him, "You just have to look at his supporters," "Who pushed him to get where he is so fast? It's these individuals in Hyde Park, who don't always have the best interests of the community in mind."
Now we can get into the ties to Daleyand a few others. DAVID AXELROD- Daley's political stratagist since 89' then architect of Obama's campaign: VALERIE JARRETT- once Daley's planning commissioner then Obama's top campaign advisor and will likely get a key position with Obama White House: MICHELLE OBAMA- worked in Daley's executive office and Planning Dept. also freinds with the Jackson family: RAHM EMANUEL- started his political life as a Daley fundraiser. Due to recent research I must retract my previous statement that "Rahmbo" isn't familliar with Chicago politics as I have just stated (we learn new things every day). ABNER MIKVA- Chicago area Congress man/Dem. political insider/Whitehouse Counsel to Clinton OBAMA MENTOR and backer from Hyde Park: NEWTON MINOW- Obama backer/prominant lawyer/Mikva's childhood freind/Dem. insider and Obama employer at (Sidley Austin Law Firm)
And this is what we know of today, not to mention those that the Rep. brought to light (all powerful Chicago, Hyde Park area liberals) that backed Obama from day one. These (statement from Trotter and Dem. powerhouse connections) are things that I have just recently learned yet they are frightfully accurate to Trotter's statement. However this is not the sole reason for my uneasyness with Obamas rise to power (this does tie in to the thread). He also turned down two jobs at two different times one with Mikva and a second internship with Minow's firm in 90' because, "I'm going to go into SOME FORM OF POLITICS." He knows this well enough to turn down two good jobs six years out!????
Here's a bit of background on MY position, I don't like people thinking that I don't like Obama "just because he's Obama." I used to be a Democrat when I was younger and the first time that I voted outside of my party was in 04'. This was also the first time that Obama had come up as a candidate on the ballot for a district that I was represented in. Many people felt that he was an upstart that came out of nowhere and couldn't phathom how he was doing this. His messages weren't powerful and he had a poor voting record in Illinois at best. At first I was going to vote for him (like a good blind Democrat) just for the party and also because I was no great fan of (R). Jack Ryan. When Ryan dropped out he was replaced by (R) Alan Keyes and the more I heard these two debate the more I could tell that there was no substance behind Obama's words. He was just placating to the Democratic concensus. Although I didn't agree with all that Keyes put forth, I felt that he was at the least a man of his convictions. And I have many conservative values at core so he got my vote (this is to say nothing about wariness with Obama's sudden rise to power). It was the speach at the Dem. National Convention, his quick rise to power, and recent win of the U.S. Senate (with a bad voting record and lack luster message) that really got me to wondering just who is it that's pulling the strings? And I told my wife not long after that, "Mark my words, who ever it is that's pushing this guy forward will have him in the White House soon!"
And the media poked and proded him a bout a run for Pres. even after he sited his own lack of experiance as why he wouldn't run. You would have thought that they would have had a field day with that? Nope.
An example of Obama's lack of conviction is his stance on drilling for oil. While in the Ill. Senate he supported a hairbrained idea to do exploratory drilling for oil in Lake Michigan (water source for millions and could be an eco. disaster) which failed none the less. Yet stands against drilling in a small area in Anwar? Not a man of convictions, and yes I know people will say no politician is but somehow I expect more.
In any event that being said, it has always been my opinoin (and not in light of recent events) that a man that comes from nowhere to the White House must have a power pushing him there! And that power is from Chicago, this doesn't happen in Chicago without getting dirt under your fingernails.
"I'm from Chicago. I know politics. I'm skinny, but I'm tough."
-Barack Obama Pennsylvania Primary in April
[edit on 14-12-2008 by lazy1981]
I just don't believe in guilty
until proven innocent. I like to think for myself. I'm not a member of any party and have voted for most of them. I also have some very conservative
beliefs and supported Ron Paul through the beginning of this election. Just FYI. reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 11:20 PM by lazy1981
reply to post by Anonymous ATS
Well the Romans were way worse they controled everything and answered to no one, if they wanted it they just raised an army and invaded Rome to overthrow their opponents and meanwhile taking power as well.
Blago is covered everyday in Chicago; however they seem to be backpeddling with him.
And finaly, most people are fat and happy and so long as that stands, they seem not to care. It's a shame but hunger (in many forms) has always been mans driving force. People are fat and happy.
Ingnorance is bliss. (for some)
Well the Romans were way worse they controled everything and answered to no one, if they wanted it they just raised an army and invaded Rome to overthrow their opponents and meanwhile taking power as well.
Blago is covered everyday in Chicago; however they seem to be backpeddling with him.
And finaly, most people are fat and happy and so long as that stands, they seem not to care. It's a shame but hunger (in many forms) has always been mans driving force. People are fat and happy.
Ingnorance is bliss. (for some)reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 07:22 AM by jibeho
Rahm Emanuel, President-elect Obama's chief of staff, had direct discussions with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich about Obama's vacant Senate seat, the Chicago Sun-Times reported. Sources with knowledge of the conversations told the Sun- Times Emanuel spoke with the governor and pushed for the appointment of Valerie Jarrett in the days after the presidential election and asked that it be done by a certain date.
www.suntimes.com...
Why the lies and full throttle reverse gear from the beginning? This type of behavior only creates its own storms of conspiracy and cover up.
Info was issued a couple of days ago about Blago being a bookie in the years prior to his public office. The feds were tipped off and nothing was done to Blago. Blago must have one hell of a laundry bag full of dirty shorts to get as far as he did.
They will make him a sweet deal and he will sing like a bird. He of course will have to live the rest of his life under protection and fear.
reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 01:10 AM by lazy1981
reply to post by jibeho
I don't think Blago will be singing to anyone. If he was indeed tied to organized crime (i.e. "The Outfit" as it's called in Chicago) he more than likely wouldn't say a word. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if he were "mobbed up," with all the other gangsters that have held office in Chicago and the surounding area. Hell, there's a Casino permit that's still up in the air because the state doesn't know if it's safe to give it to The Village of Rosemont (bordering the NorthWest side of Chicago) due to mob ties.
I don't think Blago will be singing to anyone. If he was indeed tied to organized crime (i.e. "The Outfit" as it's called in Chicago) he more than likely wouldn't say a word. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if he were "mobbed up," with all the other gangsters that have held office in Chicago and the surounding area. Hell, there's a Casino permit that's still up in the air because the state doesn't know if it's safe to give it to The Village of Rosemont (bordering the NorthWest side of Chicago) due to mob ties.
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