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Originally posted by kozmo
reply to post by ConservativeJack
What YOU define as "Credible" I do not - that is the MSM. They haven't even covered one single aspect of this. They are complicit in this.
You believe what you believe - I know this as I can see the koolaid stains all over you. I do not have to prove anything to you. If Obama were 1/10th as wise as you think he is, he would have settled this issue months ago. Instead, he has spent millions fighting it? Intelligent people want to know why. What is he hiding?
Again, I hope the SCOTUS is prepared for a landslide of lawsuits over every single document the man signs until this issue is resolved.
My application was denied. The Honorable Court chose not to state why.
Wrotnowksi v. Connecticut Secretary of State is still pending as an emergency application resubmitted to the Honorable Associate Justice Antonin Scalia as of last Tuesday. I worked extensively on that application and it includes a more solid brief and a less treacherous lower Court procedural history.
After six days, it’s interesting that Scalia neither denied it nor referred it to the full Court.
My case may have suffered from the NJ Appellate Division Judge having incorrectly characterized my original suit as a “motion for leave to appeal” rather than the “direct appeal” that it actually was. On Dec 21 I filed official Judicial misconduct charges with the NJ Supreme Court and I updated SCOTUS on that by a letter which is part of SCOTUS Docket as of Dec. 22.
On the chance that SCOTUS was looking at both my case and Cort’s case, I will say that Cort’s case does not have the same procedural hang up that mine does. It may be that without a decision on the Judicial misconduct allegation correcting the NJ Appellate Division case file, SCOTUS might have been in the position of not being able to hear my case as it would appear that my case was not before them on the proper procedural grounds.
I did file a direct appeal under the proper NJ Court rules, but the lower Court judge refused to acknowledge that and if his fraudulent docketing was used by SCOTUS they would have a solid procedural basis to throw mine out.
I don’t know if it’s significant that Cort’s case was not denied at the same time as mine. -His case argues the same exact theory - that Obama is not a natural born citizen because he was a British citizen at birth - as I did.
All eyes should now be closely watching US Supreme Court Docket No. 08A469, Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz.
If Cort’s application is also denied then the fat lady can sing. Until then, the same exact issue is before SCOTUS as was in my case. Cort’s application before SCOTUS incorprates all of the arguments and law in mine, but we improved on mine quite a bit in Cort’s as we had more time to prepare it.
I was in a rush to get mine to SCOTUS before election day, which I did do on Nov. 3. But Cort’s case has a much cleaner lower court procedural history.
I’m not trying to play with people’s minds here. SCOTUS has not updated Cort’s Docket and until they do so there can be no closure.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
You know BH, it would be one thing if the SCOTUS had taken the case, done the research, was provided the original long form vault copy, and then came to the conclusion that Obama is natural born. I think I can speak for many here that really just want the same thing- and would be willing to accept that as final. Done deal.
As it stands, I cannot accept this as final. Too many questions remain, and this is the ultimate cop out- refusing to hear the case.
Originally posted by kozmo
Let's be intellectually honest here... His own grandmother said she witnessed his birth - IN KENYA.
The Ambassador to the US, from KENYA, stated that Obama's birthplace - IN KENYA - is their biggest tourist attraction.
His own sister has given multiple accounts of Obama's birth, citing numerous hospitals.
He is the FIRST U.S. President who has legally challenged the release of his Birth Certificate - hiring not one, BUT THREE law firms to suppress the release of his LEGAL Birth Certificate.
Couple that information
We have no history on his citizenship in indonesia.
To say that there is nothing to look into is both short-sighted and outright stupid!
I am looking forward to the SCOTUS being challenged on every single document that he signs as President of the US until this question is answered.
I will persoanlly file cases in Ohio for any and every piece of legislation that affects me, as I will then have standing.
Originally posted by kozmo
Originally posted by kozmo
What YOU define as "Credible" I do not - that is the MSM. They haven't even covered one single aspect of this. They are complicit in this.
You believe what you believe - I know this as I can see the koolaid stains all over you.
I do not have to prove anything to you.
If Obama were 1/10th as wise as you think he is, he would have settled this issue months ago.
Instead, he has spent millions fighting it?
Again, I hope the SCOTUS is prepared for a landslide of lawsuits over every single document the man signs until this issue is resolved.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
And furthermore, I think a lot of you happy about this are afraid as hell that if the SCOTUS did take the case that he would be declared not natural born.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by ConservativeJack
The problem with Obama is very simple. He was not born in the U.S.A. period. I'm not saying he is a bad guy or even he couldn't be a good leader (I seriously doubt he will be), but he can't legally be the President of the U.S.A.
If he was born in the U.S. he would have came forward and proved his case. The Supreme Court is bought and paid for. It is part of the problem.
Get it through your skull, this has never been about bashing Obama.
It is about a corrupt group of rich elite controlling lives without giving us a real say. There was a reason so much time and effort was put into the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the U.S.
It was to empower "We the People" of the U.S.A. !!!!! To protect us from the powers that be. Don't lose sit of this fact!!!!
Originally posted by Jb0311NY
That's right. The NWO reserves the right to play out any of 4 situations ( i can think of) to induce WW3. They want to censor us soon, we need to pass the word to others we know fast. I make DVD's with a bunch of movies and info. I'm on the 3rd gen and it's still pretty tuff to get people to open there minds nI still won't quit. Some are awakening and passiing the word.
I see them using obama as their tool for at least until Jan 22. Sad.
Originally posted by ConservativeJack
what are you talking about
honestly
like, what's your guys deal? You racist??? You think Obama is not who he says he is? That's OFFENSIVE.
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